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Everyone saying this is a slippery slope to tech companies regulating speech are being completely ridiculous. https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/134809991838

by zanek 6y ago

Everyone saying this is a slippery slope to tech companies regulating speech are being completely ridiculous. https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1348099918381068289 https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1348099918381068289 Check the images there. People are literally planning murder on Parler and people are acting as if AWS, Apple, etc should not do anything. Parler REFUSES to remove these posts. I could see if it was something other than murder, or violence but I can't take anyone serious who is ok with all the craziness on Parler. I would completely agree with any conservative or person of any political persuasion if AWS, Apple, etc were deplatforming Parler for their political views. When did it become controversial to try to stop companies that people are using to organize violent acts ? Additional Parler posts about murdering people from https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/ [1] https://preview.redd.it/q8szoz0pcda61.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2d96de37d86cf049ce6994a502e0156ce5fee2a5 https://preview.redd.it/q8szoz0pcda61.jpg?width=640&crop=sma... [2] https://i.redd.it/56siiqv8fda61.jpg https://i.redd.it/56siiqv8fda61.jpg [3] https://i.redd.it/k1fgbg59fda61.jpg https://i.redd.it/k1fgbg59fda61.jpg

nelsondev 6y ago
By that logic, Twitter and Facebook should also be banned from using Amazon services. Facebook’s lack of content moderation in Myanmar enabled a genocide of the Rohingya people. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46105934 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46105934 In about 30 seconds of searching twitter, I found calls to “kill Trump”, try it yourself. https://ibb.co/vvtBkvc https://ibb.co/vvtBkvc https://ibb.co/MSDRRNT https://ibb.co/MSDRRNT https://ibb.co/cbHrQpf https://ibb.co/cbHrQpf Deplatforming Parler is clearly politically motivated, likely for BigTech to suck up to the Dems with Dems seizing House, Senate, President.
- zanek 6y ago
  I have reported posts like that to Twitter and its been removed. Parler's CEO said they arent removing posts from anyone because Parler is "leading the protection of free speech online". Just because someone posts something like that on Twitter does not make both equal. I've yet to see these terror planning posts get taken down on Parler
  - nelsondev 6y ago
    From the below article, Parler was setting up moderation policies, and organizing volunteer moderators. And from the AWS letter, it was Parler removed some of the offending posts, but not all of them, and not quickly enough for Amazon. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/9/22221730/apple-removes-suspends-bans-parler-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/9/22221730/apple-removes-sus... I’m still looking for the original source of Parler’s response to Apple.
    - ShamelessC 6y ago
      The full AWS letter is really worth reading. It's far more nuanced and alarming than just "Parler tried but not hard enough". I'll emphasize some points I think show that. "Recently, we’ve seen a steady increase in this violent content on your website, all of which violates our terms. It’s clear that Parler does not have an effective process to comply with the AWS terms of service. It also seems that Parler is still trying to determine its position on content moderation. You remove some violent content when contacted by us or others, but not always with urgency. Your CEO recently stated publicly that he doesn’t “feel responsible for any of this, and neither should the platform.” This morning, you shared that you have a plan to more proactively moderate violent content, but plan to do so manually with volunteers. It’s our view that this nascent plan to use volunteers to promptly identify and remove dangerous content will not work in light of the rapidly growing number of violent posts. This is further demonstrated by the fact that you still have not taken down much of the content that we’ve sent you. Given the unfortunate events that transpired this past week in Washington, D.C., there is serious risk that this type of content will further incite violence."
hehehaha 6y ago
And it would be one thing if Parler started out as a strictly free speech platform. No, they’re solely funded by the very same people who started the fascist movement. As such the whole platform is designed to give cover to this specific group of people.

by zanek 6y ago

nelsondev 6y ago

By that logic, Twitter and Facebook should also be banned from using Amazon services. Facebook’s lack of content moderation in Myanmar enabled a genocide of the Rohingya people. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46105934 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46105934 In about 30 seconds of searching twitter, I found calls to “kill Trump”, try it yourself. https://ibb.co/vvtBkvc https://ibb.co/vvtBkvc https://ibb.co/MSDRRNT https://ibb.co/MSDRRNT https://ibb.co/cbHrQpf https://ibb.co/cbHrQpf Deplatforming Parler is clearly politically motivated, likely for BigTech to suck up to the Dems with Dems seizing House, Senate, President.

zanek 6y ago
I have reported posts like that to Twitter and its been removed. Parler's CEO said they arent removing posts from anyone because Parler is "leading the protection of free speech online". Just because someone posts something like that on Twitter does not make both equal. I've yet to see these terror planning posts get taken down on Parler
- nelsondev 6y ago
  From the below article, Parler was setting up moderation policies, and organizing volunteer moderators. And from the AWS letter, it was Parler removed some of the offending posts, but not all of them, and not quickly enough for Amazon. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/9/22221730/apple-removes-suspends-bans-parler-app-store https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/9/22221730/apple-removes-sus... I’m still looking for the original source of Parler’s response to Apple.
  - ShamelessC 6y ago
    The full AWS letter is really worth reading. It's far more nuanced and alarming than just "Parler tried but not hard enough". I'll emphasize some points I think show that. "Recently, we’ve seen a steady increase in this violent content on your website, all of which violates our terms. It’s clear that Parler does not have an effective process to comply with the AWS terms of service. It also seems that Parler is still trying to determine its position on content moderation. You remove some violent content when contacted by us or others, but not always with urgency. Your CEO recently stated publicly that he doesn’t “feel responsible for any of this, and neither should the platform.” This morning, you shared that you have a plan to more proactively moderate violent content, but plan to do so manually with volunteers. It’s our view that this nascent plan to use volunteers to promptly identify and remove dangerous content will not work in light of the rapidly growing number of violent posts. This is further demonstrated by the fact that you still have not taken down much of the content that we’ve sent you. Given the unfortunate events that transpired this past week in Washington, D.C., there is serious risk that this type of content will further incite violence."

hehehaha 6y ago

And it would be one thing if Parler started out as a strictly free speech platform. No, they’re solely funded by the very same people who started the fascist movement. As such the whole platform is designed to give cover to this specific group of people.