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> Every place has the right to self determination, but secessionists tend to be treated as criminals. The HK democracy activists are protesting in support of s
by perennate 6y ago
> Every place has the right to self determination, but secessionists tend to be treated as criminals.
The HK democracy activists are protesting in support of self determination. Those arrested are not "secessionists", and as far as I know, Hong Kong has not left the PRC, so your comparison doesn't really make any sense.
- nsajko 6y agoI don't think Bagacrap was discussing Hong Kong at all, but anyway your argument doesn't make much sense, because if someone is "protesting in support of self determination", then they almost surely are really asking for secession.
- perennate 6y agoParent comment discussed "democracy activists in Hong Kong being rounded up" -- Bagacrap was of course misleadingly labeling those activists as "secessionists", unless you think Bagacrap was referring to the Taiwanese people even though Taiwan is an independent country and has no need for secession beyond a legal formality. On whether these activists are secessionists: their demands focus on advancing democratic elections in Hong Kong while continuing under the "one country two systems" framework, the claim that they are asking for secession is incorrect given that the vast majority of the activists do not want Hong Kong to secede from China. Edit: see https://www.scmp.com/yp/discover/news/hong-kong/article/3065950/hong-kong-protests-what-are-five-demands-what-do https://www.scmp.com/yp/discover/news/hong-kong/article/3065... which is from a newspaper in China (so even if it is biased, it would be biased towards pro-CCP views). As you can see, these activists want self-determination for Hong Kong, but do not want Hong Kong to leave or secede from China.