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This is an incredibly sort timeframe to expect someone to be able to migrate off AWS. If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly, but

by Nbox9 6y ago

This is an incredibly sort timeframe to expect someone to be able to migrate off AWS. If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly, but if they are tied into more than a couple of AWS specific services like Route 53 or Lambda then a migration is a big ask.

efleeus 6y ago
Agreed. Though I'd point out this it's an incredibly long time to leave the infrastructure in place when there is active planning of further violence taking place on the platform.
- zlynx 6y ago
  IF that was actually the case then law enforcement would be involved and Parler would follow their instructions. As they have in the past.
  - danielheath 6y ago
    Law enforcement are involved; they were photographed at the capitol assisting the invaders.
    - nostromo 6y ago
      Apparently the cop that shot and killed an unarmed women didn’t get the memo.
      - NicoJuicy 6y ago
        A mob was literally breaking in the room where the VP and other politicians were. Yelling that "Pence must die" ( on some of them videos). You can literally see some messages that were on Parler in the articles were Amazon, is banning Parler: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-parler-aws https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-p... . That's crazy talk
  - deleted 6y ago
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nexuist 6y ago
There is no ask. That they are even getting a migration period is very gracious of Amazon. When the decision to ban was made, Parler ceased being a customer and became a liability - one that AWS would presumably try to get rid of as fast as possible. They have no responsibility to keep their services open for Parler.
- spoonjim 6y ago
  They do have a responsibility to allow customers to migrate in reasonable time frames. This move tells every other AWS customer: “be ready to move at a moments notice.” That’s not a good thing for AWS.
  - voldemort1968 6y ago
    ...If you welcome organized violence at a national scale
    - bitlax 6y ago
      Oh so basically every Democrat in 2020.
  - faitswulff 6y ago
    Most customers will probably be insulated from these kinds of decisions due to not hosting hate speech and calls for violence.
    - Mountain_Skies 6y ago
      As long as those definitions never change, which of course they constantly do. By today's standards, the wildly popular TV show 'Friends' is full of hate speech. Who knows what will be considered hate speech tomorrow.
      - ed25519FUUU 6y ago
        Have you seen the Office? Absolutely packed with harmful hate speech and violent tropes.
optimalsolver 6y ago
Comment on r/aws: >I am praying and hoping that Parler chose to use DynamoDB, Cognito, API GW, lambda functions, SnS//SQS , Cloudwatch etc. :-D
- ed25519FUUU 6y ago
  Censorship is always good and never used to suppress truth or hide embarrassing actions of the powerful elite.
- frakkingcylons 6y ago
  According to the CEO's post, it seems Parler's engineering was smart and didn't rely on any proprietary AWS services.
aaron42net 6y ago
Based on reading the LinkedIn of the Parler execs, their code is node.js and some Go with Cassandra and Postgres for storage and RabbitMQ for queuing. That sounds like it will run anywhere they can rent a pile of Linux boxes. They've tried to avoid lock-in, specifically mentioning avoiding any Google technologies in their mobile apps. However, they are using Route53 for DNS, Cloudfront as a CDN, and ALB for load balancing, so there are a few commodity services they'll need to swap out.
- revel 6y ago
  Also depends a bit on how they set it up. If it was all done as code or config then they’re in luck. If they just used the GUI console they’re in real trouble. That will take them until past inauguration which I suspect is the point. Good riddance to Parler
- rbearsat 6y ago
  It takes more than that to host a site like Parler. They need load balancing, a CDN for performance (good luck there), and security protections (DDoS, in particular). You know any site they stand up will be a prime hacker target. They need some good network and security engineers to keep this site up.
jart 6y ago
> If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly It's only a matter of time before software updates are used for deplatforming too.
ff333ttee 6y ago
AWS and Google just showed how extremely untrustful their platforms are. If they can just close any account with a very short notice, without any court decision, then I don't really want to use such a horrible cloud system.

by Nbox9 6y ago

efleeus 6y ago

Agreed. Though I'd point out this it's an incredibly long time to leave the infrastructure in place when there is active planning of further violence taking place on the platform.

zlynx 6y ago
IF that was actually the case then law enforcement would be involved and Parler would follow their instructions. As they have in the past.
- danielheath 6y ago
  Law enforcement are involved; they were photographed at the capitol assisting the invaders.
  - nostromo 6y ago
    Apparently the cop that shot and killed an unarmed women didn’t get the memo.
    - NicoJuicy 6y ago
      A mob was literally breaking in the room where the VP and other politicians were. Yelling that "Pence must die" ( on some of them videos). You can literally see some messages that were on Parler in the articles were Amazon, is banning Parler: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-parler-aws https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-p... . That's crazy talk
- deleted 6y ago
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nexuist 6y ago

There is no ask. That they are even getting a migration period is very gracious of Amazon. When the decision to ban was made, Parler ceased being a customer and became a liability - one that AWS would presumably try to get rid of as fast as possible. They have no responsibility to keep their services open for Parler.

spoonjim 6y ago
They do have a responsibility to allow customers to migrate in reasonable time frames. This move tells every other AWS customer: “be ready to move at a moments notice.” That’s not a good thing for AWS.
- voldemort1968 6y ago
  ...If you welcome organized violence at a national scale
  - bitlax 6y ago
    Oh so basically every Democrat in 2020.
- faitswulff 6y ago
  Most customers will probably be insulated from these kinds of decisions due to not hosting hate speech and calls for violence.
  - Mountain_Skies 6y ago
    As long as those definitions never change, which of course they constantly do. By today's standards, the wildly popular TV show 'Friends' is full of hate speech. Who knows what will be considered hate speech tomorrow.
    - ed25519FUUU 6y ago
      Have you seen the Office? Absolutely packed with harmful hate speech and violent tropes.

optimalsolver 6y ago

Comment on r/aws: >I am praying and hoping that Parler chose to use DynamoDB, Cognito, API GW, lambda functions, SnS//SQS , Cloudwatch etc. :-D

ed25519FUUU 6y ago
Censorship is always good and never used to suppress truth or hide embarrassing actions of the powerful elite.
frakkingcylons 6y ago
According to the CEO's post, it seems Parler's engineering was smart and didn't rely on any proprietary AWS services.

aaron42net 6y ago

Based on reading the LinkedIn of the Parler execs, their code is node.js and some Go with Cassandra and Postgres for storage and RabbitMQ for queuing. That sounds like it will run anywhere they can rent a pile of Linux boxes. They've tried to avoid lock-in, specifically mentioning avoiding any Google technologies in their mobile apps. However, they are using Route53 for DNS, Cloudfront as a CDN, and ALB for load balancing, so there are a few commodity services they'll need to swap out.

revel 6y ago
Also depends a bit on how they set it up. If it was all done as code or config then they’re in luck. If they just used the GUI console they’re in real trouble. That will take them until past inauguration which I suspect is the point. Good riddance to Parler
rbearsat 6y ago
It takes more than that to host a site like Parler. They need load balancing, a CDN for performance (good luck there), and security protections (DDoS, in particular). You know any site they stand up will be a prime hacker target. They need some good network and security engineers to keep this site up.

jart 6y ago

> If there infrastructure is docker, or K8 than they can move quickly It's only a matter of time before software updates are used for deplatforming too.

ff333ttee 6y ago

AWS and Google just showed how extremely untrustful their platforms are. If they can just close any account with a very short notice, without any court decision, then I don't really want to use such a horrible cloud system.