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Yep I think its fine that parler is getting booted based on the content that is getting posted. Lets not pretend that all these companies are trying to squash p
by canofbars 6y ago
Yep I think its fine that parler is getting booted based on the content that is getting posted. Lets not pretend that all these companies are trying to squash people of a certain political group, they are simply banning users posting borderline illegal and violent content. You can quite easily use mainstream social media as long as you aren't posting about how someone should be beheaded.
- 1MachineElf 6y ago>You can quite easily use mainstream social media as long as you aren't posting about how someone should be beheaded. Is that so? Curious, because I was seeing a lot of guillotine memes from leftists last month.
- tptacek 6y agoWhen the leftists guillotine someone, this will become a more persuasive argument.
- verwyrelevant 6y agoIsn't the whole point of this "deplatforming" to stop incitement?
- tptacek 6y agoYes, after concrete evidence that the incitement is sincere, or being materially interpreted as sincere. (For the record: I think the guillotine imagery is as offensive as the Pinochet helicopter stuff, which is to say, extraordinarily offensive, and I think less of anyone who uses it. That's easy for me to say though, because I'm also not a leftist.).
- adolph 6y agoIronically https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/08/jeff-bezos-guillotine-protest-amazon-workers https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/08/jeff-bezos-guilloti...
- 1MachineElf 6y agoDispite my disagreeing with you and feeling pretty shafted by the removal of Parler, don't take it personally - you're an open source contributer who has earned my respect.
- acdha 6y agoDid they name people, places, or times? A key factor in free speech legal cases is how credibly threatening something is — someone telling a friend “I’m going to strangle you!” after they get rickrolled is clearly not but someone saying “On <date>, we’re going to <place> to kill <politician>” is enough that the Secret Service might want to talk with you. Another factor is the climate: nobody is using guillotines anywhere now but mass shootings are sadly common.
- nostromo 6y ago> You can quite easily use mainstream social media as long as you aren't posting about how someone should be beheaded. https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/kathygriffintweet.jpg https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/blogs/kathygriffintw...
- tptacek 6y agoLiterally no person in the entire world believed this was an appeal for people to behead Donald Trump.
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- gfodor 6y agoYou’re a lot smarter than this, so my reaction to this is wondering why you would say this.
- tptacek 6y agoSay more? I'm being sincere.
- gfodor 6y agoThere is absolutely no way you can be certain of the beliefs of the whole world in response to something. It’s hard enough to even feel confident you truly know the beliefs of a single person. That alone is true, but this imagery itself is so grotesque that we ought to assume it led to a change in the degree of motive to cause harm. If you don’t believe me, consider a thought exercise where the identity of the person involved is exchanged with someone who did end up assassinated this way. Would it be reasonable to conclude this influenced it?
- tptacek 6y agoThat doesn't seem at all plausible to me. Further, I don't think you can point to lots of serious "behead Trump" chatter in the opposition; conversely, I can easily point you to "hang Pence from the tree outside the Capitol" postings that were not kidding. Anyways, we probably understand each other at this point and don't need to belabor this, even if we don't agree with each other.