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> IIRC, H.264 is one of a few non-Google technologies that is included in Chrome, but is not included in Chromium. That's interesting, I never missed it and us

by lucb1e 6y ago

> IIRC, H.264 is one of a few non-Google technologies that is included in Chrome, but is not included in Chromium. That's interesting, I never missed it and use both Chromium and Firefox. Apparently we can do without this tax. Or might a nonfree codec package in Debian have something to do with it? I did hear someone complain once about my sending a nonfree video format (in a jovial manner), not sure about the details anymore but it played out of the box for me (in Chromium).

colejohnson66 6y ago
If you’re using YouTube, it supports other formats than just H.264. So, in that instance, lack of H.264 isn’t noticeable.
- Narishma 6y ago
  Unless you don't have hardware accelerated decoding for VP8/9. Then it is very noticeable, especially on a laptop.
  - samoa42 6y ago
    this! h264 is the most widely supported codec to decode in hardware, so the inclusion of a software decoder in the browser is kinda moot.
  - KozmoNau7 6y ago
    This completely killed my Tegra K1-based chromebook. What good is a Google laptop with a full HD display, if it can't play Youtube videos in any resolution higher than 480p?
    - basilgohar 6y ago
      That would be very odd because YouTube definitely supports H.264 videos in higher than 480p resolutions. VP9 is only exclusively used for some formats/resolutions (e.g., HDR is VP9-only, I think).
      - KozmoNau7 6y ago
        It's been a while since I sold it, but it would just choke on anything 720p or higher.
zerocrates 6y ago
I believe Firefox will support H.264 for videos only using the operating system's own support (so on Linux, if you have it supported in gstreamer and/or ffmpeg then it's supported in Firefox).
- labawi 6y ago
  Linux firefox Plugins tab, though I'm not sure if it's used beyond webrtc: > OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc. > This plugin is automatically installed by Mozilla to comply with the WebRTC specification and to enable WebRTC calls with devices that require the H.264 video codec. Visit https://www.openh264.org/ https://www.openh264.org/ to view the codec source code and learn more about the implementation.
  - zinekeller 6y ago
    Nope, it isn't used beyond WebRTC, and in Windows it even autodetects if the computer has a capable enough hardware encoder and use that instead (and decoding through native Windows libraries if there isn't a suitable hardware decoder).

by lucb1e 6y ago

colejohnson66 6y ago

If you’re using YouTube, it supports other formats than just H.264. So, in that instance, lack of H.264 isn’t noticeable.

Narishma 6y ago
Unless you don't have hardware accelerated decoding for VP8/9. Then it is very noticeable, especially on a laptop.
- samoa42 6y ago
  this! h264 is the most widely supported codec to decode in hardware, so the inclusion of a software decoder in the browser is kinda moot.
- KozmoNau7 6y ago
  This completely killed my Tegra K1-based chromebook. What good is a Google laptop with a full HD display, if it can't play Youtube videos in any resolution higher than 480p?
  - basilgohar 6y ago
    That would be very odd because YouTube definitely supports H.264 videos in higher than 480p resolutions. VP9 is only exclusively used for some formats/resolutions (e.g., HDR is VP9-only, I think).
    - KozmoNau7 6y ago
      It's been a while since I sold it, but it would just choke on anything 720p or higher.

zerocrates 6y ago

I believe Firefox will support H.264 for videos only using the operating system's own support (so on Linux, if you have it supported in gstreamer and/or ffmpeg then it's supported in Firefox).

labawi 6y ago
Linux firefox Plugins tab, though I'm not sure if it's used beyond webrtc: > OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc. > This plugin is automatically installed by Mozilla to comply with the WebRTC specification and to enable WebRTC calls with devices that require the H.264 video codec. Visit https://www.openh264.org/ https://www.openh264.org/ to view the codec source code and learn more about the implementation.
- zinekeller 6y ago
  Nope, it isn't used beyond WebRTC, and in Windows it even autodetects if the computer has a capable enough hardware encoder and use that instead (and decoding through native Windows libraries if there isn't a suitable hardware decoder).