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and without the addressbar how will you navigate to news.ycombinator.com? How will you know what site you're on? How will you prevent me from doing some cleve

by mixmax 15y ago

and without the addressbar how will you navigate to news.ycombinator.com? How will you know what site you're on? How will you prevent me from doing some clever SEO to turn up in a google search for your bank before their own website so I can scam you? How will you be able to return to that site you liked but don't have the address for since the URL was hidden? How will you market and position your site if noone knows the URL? How will you do offline marketing if users don't know how to get to the URL you provided? I definitely think we're losing something important.

jonknee 15y ago
> and without the addressbar how will you navigate to news.ycombinator.com? Using the same icon I used to get here today. > How will you know what site you're on? By the page title or by looking at the site, same as I do today > How will you prevent me from doing some clever SEO to turn up in a google search for your bank before their own website so I can scam you? The same as today, Chrome pops up a malicious site warning. > How will you be able to return to that site you liked but don't have the address for since the URL was hidden? Search. Same as today considering a fair number of users type URLs into Google as it is (facebook.com is one of the very top Google searches) > How will you market and position your site if noone knows the URL? Market by the URL, no one is suggesting you won't be able to use the URL to arrive at a site. It's just killing the always shown URL bar.
- rjbond3rd 15y ago
  Icon?
  - jonknee 15y ago
    I have a row of favicons in my Chrome bookmarks bar (no bookmark titles, so it's just a row of icons). HN is one of them.
    - Meai 15y ago
      Yes, we all just love to see the day when the web solely consists of a few dozen apps in everyone's browser. Buttons have no significant advantage over today's url bars. Pressing a single button, I get all the sites I recently looked at, my favorites, all sorted and easily accessible.
      - jonknee 15y ago
        By your count it's at least 100% faster--a single click and I'm where I want to be. I also get by fine on my computer by having a dock of app icons. Similarly, it works well on my phone. It's not the end of the world.
- Zev 15y ago
  How did you get the icon there in the first place?
sp332 15y ago
Doesn't Ctrl-L show the URL bar? You can type one if you want to, but it doesn't show up all the time. Opening a new tab should do the same, and then hide the bar when the page is loaded.
VMG 15y ago
> and without the addressbar how will you navigate to news.ycombinator.com? I didn't say you should never see the address bar. You can use the bar to access the location you want, but once you are at your destination, you don't need it anymore > How will you know what site you're on? Hacker News has a bright orange bar at the top. Facebook is pretty blue. I think the address bar is the least identifying piece of a website. > How will you be able to return to that site you liked but don't have the address for since the URL was hidden? If I forgot to bookmark it, I'll do what I do now: use google > How will you market and position your site if noone knows the URL? > How will you do offline marketing if users don't know how to get to the URL you provided? I don't want to lose the URL, I want to lose the address bar after you have accessed the site and you don't need to see it anymore.

by mixmax 15y ago

jonknee 15y ago

> and without the addressbar how will you navigate to news.ycombinator.com? Using the same icon I used to get here today. > How will you know what site you're on? By the page title or by looking at the site, same as I do today > How will you prevent me from doing some clever SEO to turn up in a google search for your bank before their own website so I can scam you? The same as today, Chrome pops up a malicious site warning. > How will you be able to return to that site you liked but don't have the address for since the URL was hidden? Search. Same as today considering a fair number of users type URLs into Google as it is (facebook.com is one of the very top Google searches) > How will you market and position your site if noone knows the URL? Market by the URL, no one is suggesting you won't be able to use the URL to arrive at a site. It's just killing the always shown URL bar.

rjbond3rd 15y ago
Icon?
- jonknee 15y ago
  I have a row of favicons in my Chrome bookmarks bar (no bookmark titles, so it's just a row of icons). HN is one of them.
  - Meai 15y ago
    Yes, we all just love to see the day when the web solely consists of a few dozen apps in everyone's browser. Buttons have no significant advantage over today's url bars. Pressing a single button, I get all the sites I recently looked at, my favorites, all sorted and easily accessible.
    - jonknee 15y ago
      By your count it's at least 100% faster--a single click and I'm where I want to be. I also get by fine on my computer by having a dock of app icons. Similarly, it works well on my phone. It's not the end of the world.
Zev 15y ago
How did you get the icon there in the first place?

sp332 15y ago

Doesn't Ctrl-L show the URL bar? You can type one if you want to, but it doesn't show up all the time. Opening a new tab should do the same, and then hide the bar when the page is loaded.

VMG 15y ago

> and without the addressbar how will you navigate to news.ycombinator.com? I didn't say you should never see the address bar. You can use the bar to access the location you want, but once you are at your destination, you don't need it anymore > How will you know what site you're on? Hacker News has a bright orange bar at the top. Facebook is pretty blue. I think the address bar is the least identifying piece of a website. > How will you be able to return to that site you liked but don't have the address for since the URL was hidden? If I forgot to bookmark it, I'll do what I do now: use google > How will you market and position your site if noone knows the URL? > How will you do offline marketing if users don't know how to get to the URL you provided? I don't want to lose the URL, I want to lose the address bar after you have accessed the site and you don't need to see it anymore.