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Actually, I am pretty happy about people taking the threat of far-right extremism seriously. Last time we didn't take it seriously, 6 million perished in exter

Actually, I am pretty happy about people taking the threat of far-right extremism seriously. Last time we didn't take it seriously, 6 million perished in extermination camps. I'd like for that to not happen again. I think that is a bit more important than what apps you can run on your phone.

jpxw 6y ago
If you take the time to study why and how the Nazis became popular and came into power, you’ll realise why suppression of public sentiment is so dangerous.
- user-the-name 6y ago
  Actually, you won't find anything of the kind. Only if you wilfully set out to misinterpret history will you find anything like that. Hitler came into power because he was allowed to spread his message. Because he was given chance after chance to speak. Because he was given a platform.
  - volkk 6y ago
    the argument you're presenting, at its core, is "if you dont give an evil person a chance to be evil then they wont succeed," which is correct, except how are you to interpret who is evil and who will be successful at being evil? and how do you do that fairly? it seems to be an impossible problem to solve from my POV and removing comms from various groups willy nilly because we're too scared that humanity is too stupid practice critical thinking and not give in to evil thought is a slippery slope. there has to be other ways?
    - user-the-name 6y ago
      I don't think that at this point in history, right now, there is much trouble identifying who is evil.
      - volkk 6y ago
        highly disagree considering how much bs exists posing as fact/information.
- TT3351 6y ago
  The NSDAP had plenty of rags they lied to the German people with
- dang 6y ago
  It looks like you've been using HN primarily for political battle, or at least getting uncomfortably close to it. That's not allowed here—it destroys the curious conversation that this site is supposed to exist for. When accounts cross that line (see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... for more explanation), that's when we start banning them, regardless of which politics or ideology they're banning for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use the site for its intended purpose—especially now, as seemingly everything descends into the hell realms—we'd be grateful.
drwho1893 6y ago
How about far-left extremism? 100 million plus deaths[1]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_...
- user-the-name 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
trident5000 6y ago
This is a bit hilarious because many of the things were seeing today from the left are exactly what the Nazis did. They thought they were correct and morally sound as they burned books and stomped out opposition voices. They turned on a part of the population labeling them as the issue with their country. They banned guns and eventually one thing led to the next.
- Bud 6y ago
  You need to do a lot more reading on what the Nazis actually did. I'll start you off with a hint, though: No. What "the left" is doing now bears no resemblance to the actions of the Nazi Party.
  - trident5000 6y ago
    Silencing a large chunk of the population because they felt they were on the moral high ground is exactly what the Nazis did. I dont need to brush up on that part of history thank you though.
    - user-the-name 6y ago
      That is an absolutely nonsensical argument, that twists both the meaning of words and completely ignores large swathes of actual history. Do better.
linuxftw 6y ago
Wait until you hear how many perished under left-wing extremism under Soviet rule.
- user-the-name 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
  - linuxftw 6y ago
    The point is, you can't associate violence and death with either side of the political spectrum. Politics is a tool, not a causative agent.
    - user-the-name 6y ago
      I think when one side, and one side ONLY, sends armed militia with pipe bombs to storm the capitol, then yes, you can associate violence and death much more with one side than the other.
      - linuxftw 6y ago
        There was no 'armed militia' this is hyperbole from the news. They were peaceful protestors.
        user-the-name 6y ago
        The beat a policeman to death, man. They BEAT him to DEATH. They set up a GALLOWS outside. They had PIPE BOMBS. They had HANDCUFFS. What the FUCK are you on about?

jpxw 6y ago

If you take the time to study why and how the Nazis became popular and came into power, you’ll realise why suppression of public sentiment is so dangerous.

user-the-name 6y ago
Actually, you won't find anything of the kind. Only if you wilfully set out to misinterpret history will you find anything like that. Hitler came into power because he was allowed to spread his message. Because he was given chance after chance to speak. Because he was given a platform.
- volkk 6y ago
  the argument you're presenting, at its core, is "if you dont give an evil person a chance to be evil then they wont succeed," which is correct, except how are you to interpret who is evil and who will be successful at being evil? and how do you do that fairly? it seems to be an impossible problem to solve from my POV and removing comms from various groups willy nilly because we're too scared that humanity is too stupid practice critical thinking and not give in to evil thought is a slippery slope. there has to be other ways?
  - user-the-name 6y ago
    I don't think that at this point in history, right now, there is much trouble identifying who is evil.
    - volkk 6y ago
      highly disagree considering how much bs exists posing as fact/information.
TT3351 6y ago
The NSDAP had plenty of rags they lied to the German people with
dang 6y ago
It looks like you've been using HN primarily for political battle, or at least getting uncomfortably close to it. That's not allowed here—it destroys the curious conversation that this site is supposed to exist for. When accounts cross that line (see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... for more explanation), that's when we start banning them, regardless of which politics or ideology they're banning for. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use the site for its intended purpose—especially now, as seemingly everything descends into the hell realms—we'd be grateful.

drwho1893 6y ago

How about far-left extremism? 100 million plus deaths[1]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_...

user-the-name 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

trident5000 6y ago

This is a bit hilarious because many of the things were seeing today from the left are exactly what the Nazis did. They thought they were correct and morally sound as they burned books and stomped out opposition voices. They turned on a part of the population labeling them as the issue with their country. They banned guns and eventually one thing led to the next.

Bud 6y ago
You need to do a lot more reading on what the Nazis actually did. I'll start you off with a hint, though: No. What "the left" is doing now bears no resemblance to the actions of the Nazi Party.
- trident5000 6y ago
  Silencing a large chunk of the population because they felt they were on the moral high ground is exactly what the Nazis did. I dont need to brush up on that part of history thank you though.
  - user-the-name 6y ago
    That is an absolutely nonsensical argument, that twists both the meaning of words and completely ignores large swathes of actual history. Do better.

linuxftw 6y ago

Wait until you hear how many perished under left-wing extremism under Soviet rule.

user-the-name 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
- linuxftw 6y ago
  The point is, you can't associate violence and death with either side of the political spectrum. Politics is a tool, not a causative agent.
  - user-the-name 6y ago
    I think when one side, and one side ONLY, sends armed militia with pipe bombs to storm the capitol, then yes, you can associate violence and death much more with one side than the other.
    - linuxftw 6y ago
      There was no 'armed militia' this is hyperbole from the news. They were peaceful protestors.
      - user-the-name 6y ago
        The beat a policeman to death, man. They BEAT him to DEATH. They set up a GALLOWS outside. They had PIPE BOMBS. They had HANDCUFFS. What the FUCK are you on about?