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There is no "what if" in history, you just cannot argue from that position. There were events and there are facts about those events and participants. That's wh
by SergeAx 6y ago
There is no "what if" in history, you just cannot argue from that position. There were events and there are facts about those events and participants. That's what matters and it should be investigated, tried in court and punished accordingly.
- jimkleiber 6y agoI'm confused as I didn't think I was arguing for a "what if" of history. I was just trying to say that not only are we criminally liable for the outcomes we cause but also the intentions we have and just because something doesn't have an illegal outcome doesn't mean it didn't have an illegal intention, e.g., murder vs. attempted murder.
- SergeAx 6y agoOkay, then you are attributing an intent to harm or take hostages government officials to undetermined members of Capitol takeover gang, is that correct?
- jimkleiber 6y agoI'm saying I have no idea what their intentions were but that in terms of the law, intentions matter and I believe law enforcement should investigate to determine what they intended to do.
- SergeAx 6y ago100% agreed. But before that let's not assume anything that is criminally and even capital punishable.
- jimkleiber 6y agoI agree. I leave it up to the professionals in the respective fields to figure out what all happened and which laws were broken.