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I'm not familiar with the situation. That's why I ask for a due process like what we have with our justice system. You and I are free to criticize FB and Twit

I'm not familiar with the situation. That's why I ask for a due process like what we have with our justice system. You and I are free to criticize FB and Twitter. As I mention, now it depends on who screams the loudest. Let me get this right. You are against having a due process for banning elected leaders from a popular communication channel? You prefer we scream at each other until one wins? Really?

yoav 6y ago
I don’t understand what you’re saying regarding due process or screaming until someone wins? Who’s screaming? A person was using a privately owned website to encourage people to go commit acts of violence against senators and congress representatives. That website did not want to be complicit in that violence so they removed access to those people. Eg. If you go into a coffee shop and start smashing windows and beating people up and rallying for people to murder each other the coffee shop doesn’t need “due process” to kick you out and ban you. There are laws that exist and twitter has a terms of service. There’s no due process needed. If anything Twitter should be criticized for not banning Trump sooner. They let him do so much damage and allowed it to get to this point for ad revenue and engagement. I’m glad they finally did something but frustrated they allowed it to get to this.
- ergocoder 6y ago
  > Eg. If you go into a coffee shop and start smashing windows and beating people up and rallying for people to murder each other the coffee shop doesn’t need “due process” to kick you out and ban you. Then, the leader of that riot should go to jail for 25 years for murder, not simply "banned from coffee shop". Also, in a real situation, employees would first keep themselves safe and call police to handle the matter. In your imaginary situation, would you ask your minimum-wage employees to handle violence in the store? This is my point exactly. Twitter should just follow the law. If Trump breaks the law, then get a court order to remove him or call the police. Dorsey and Zuck shouldn't play police. Also, who's screaming? Just search on twitter. Dorsey and Zuck has been called Nazis, white supremacists, racists for not banning Trump.
yoav 6y ago
If a person has a blog and someone comments on a blog post the author’s address and encourages other readers to attack them, is your position that there needs to be due process for the author to remove the comment? That’s not how freedom of speech works.
- ergocoder 6y ago
  > is your position that there needs to be due process for the author to remove the comment? > That’s not how freedom of speech works. Judge can definitely order you to remove the comment. Also, an author's blog is not a popular communication channel like Twitter. Yes, I'm asking for a proper process of removing an elected leader from an important communication channel like Twitter.

yoav 6y ago

I don’t understand what you’re saying regarding due process or screaming until someone wins? Who’s screaming? A person was using a privately owned website to encourage people to go commit acts of violence against senators and congress representatives. That website did not want to be complicit in that violence so they removed access to those people. Eg. If you go into a coffee shop and start smashing windows and beating people up and rallying for people to murder each other the coffee shop doesn’t need “due process” to kick you out and ban you. There are laws that exist and twitter has a terms of service. There’s no due process needed. If anything Twitter should be criticized for not banning Trump sooner. They let him do so much damage and allowed it to get to this point for ad revenue and engagement. I’m glad they finally did something but frustrated they allowed it to get to this.

ergocoder 6y ago
> Eg. If you go into a coffee shop and start smashing windows and beating people up and rallying for people to murder each other the coffee shop doesn’t need “due process” to kick you out and ban you. Then, the leader of that riot should go to jail for 25 years for murder, not simply "banned from coffee shop". Also, in a real situation, employees would first keep themselves safe and call police to handle the matter. In your imaginary situation, would you ask your minimum-wage employees to handle violence in the store? This is my point exactly. Twitter should just follow the law. If Trump breaks the law, then get a court order to remove him or call the police. Dorsey and Zuck shouldn't play police. Also, who's screaming? Just search on twitter. Dorsey and Zuck has been called Nazis, white supremacists, racists for not banning Trump.

yoav 6y ago

If a person has a blog and someone comments on a blog post the author’s address and encourages other readers to attack them, is your position that there needs to be due process for the author to remove the comment? That’s not how freedom of speech works.

ergocoder 6y ago
> is your position that there needs to be due process for the author to remove the comment? > That’s not how freedom of speech works. Judge can definitely order you to remove the comment. Also, an author's blog is not a popular communication channel like Twitter. Yes, I'm asking for a proper process of removing an elected leader from an important communication channel like Twitter.