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I don't want businesses to be forced to do business with people it doesn't want to there are many avenues to address grievances with that already. For instance

by Grimm1 6y ago

I don't want businesses to be forced to do business with people it doesn't want to there are many avenues to address grievances with that already. For instance in this case, the Trump admin can sue and have the concern addressed in court. No business in the world can currently stand up to a government that wants to curtail it by the way.

Acrobatic_Road 6y ago
This is not just "we don't want to do business with you". This is "we don't you want to have a platform anywhere". I start caring when several tech monopolies co-ordinate to take down alternative platforms like parler.
- zepto 6y ago
  Parler can be sideloaded on Android.
  - Acrobatic_Road 6y ago
    What happens when Amazon drops them from AWS?
    - zepto 6y ago
      AWS is not the only host. I’m sure China or Russia would be happy to provide service.
    - Grimm1 6y ago
      Buy some servers and set it up yourself, switch to digital ocean, find more classic service providers. What you thought AWS was the only way to host shitty websites?
zadokshi 6y ago
> "I don't want businesses to be forced to do business with people it doesn't want to " But we are not talking about forcing general businesses doing business with general people. We are taking about allowing publicly elected representatives of the people having a voice on the platform that the majority of the country uses for communication. You are generalising, then building your argument on the generalisation.
- zepto 6y ago
  The generalization is a good principle to uphold, wouldn’t you say? Should newspapers be forced to publish the presidents tweets for those who are not on Twitter?
- Grimm1 6y ago
  So? Hold a press conference or something. These platforms aren't even close to the only communication tool they can use why should one tool be forced to suffer them. My life is certainly better without seeing Trump's asinine and sometimes dangerous commentary on Twitter if I want it I'll go check my NewsNation app. This right here is part of the problem. It's the government they can post commentary on a us.gov twitter clone or blog or whatever. I don't even agree that outside of government funds we should provide special treatment for our elected officials. We certainly have the resources to establish any communication tool they could possibly conceive of outside of private business.

by Grimm1 6y ago

Acrobatic_Road 6y ago

This is not just "we don't want to do business with you". This is "we don't you want to have a platform anywhere". I start caring when several tech monopolies co-ordinate to take down alternative platforms like parler.

zepto 6y ago
Parler can be sideloaded on Android.
- Acrobatic_Road 6y ago
  What happens when Amazon drops them from AWS?
  - zepto 6y ago
    AWS is not the only host. I’m sure China or Russia would be happy to provide service.
  - Grimm1 6y ago
    Buy some servers and set it up yourself, switch to digital ocean, find more classic service providers. What you thought AWS was the only way to host shitty websites?

zadokshi 6y ago

> "I don't want businesses to be forced to do business with people it doesn't want to " But we are not talking about forcing general businesses doing business with general people. We are taking about allowing publicly elected representatives of the people having a voice on the platform that the majority of the country uses for communication. You are generalising, then building your argument on the generalisation.

zepto 6y ago
The generalization is a good principle to uphold, wouldn’t you say? Should newspapers be forced to publish the presidents tweets for those who are not on Twitter?
Grimm1 6y ago
So? Hold a press conference or something. These platforms aren't even close to the only communication tool they can use why should one tool be forced to suffer them. My life is certainly better without seeing Trump's asinine and sometimes dangerous commentary on Twitter if I want it I'll go check my NewsNation app. This right here is part of the problem. It's the government they can post commentary on a us.gov twitter clone or blog or whatever. I don't even agree that outside of government funds we should provide special treatment for our elected officials. We certainly have the resources to establish any communication tool they could possibly conceive of outside of private business.