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> but not enough builders doing actual application development. It's simply because the community is small. People compare Haskell to other languages like Jav

by pyrale 6y ago

> but not enough builders doing actual application development. It's simply because the community is small. People compare Haskell to other languages like Java or JS like there's an equal amount of manpower, and therefore, if not everything has a library, it must be because haskellers are slacking on useless stuff. It is not. Other small languages communities have exactly the same issues, it's not specific to haskell. The only thing that is specific is outsiders feeling entitled to an ecosystem and blaming "these damn fp ivory tower types" for not providing it.

JabavuAdams 6y ago
No, it's really not. Haskell is a pain in the ass to program in. It's a language developed for mathematicians, not the real world. It makes the same mistakes as OpenCyc and expert systems. I know assembly, C, C++, Scheme, Common Lisp, Python, MATLAB, C#, some D, some Javascript, some Mathematica. Programming in Haskell looks promising initially, but just drains all the joy and productivity out of my programming.
- pyrale 6y ago
  > [Haskell] just drains all the joy and productivity out of my programming. It's fine that you don't like the language. I mean, not everyone has to enjoy a language. On the other hand, there's a difference between voicing an opinion, which is personal, and making claims like: > Haskell is a pain in the ass to program in. It's a language developed for mathematicians, not the real world. Because then, you are discarding other people's experience about the language, while you claim your own experience is relevant.
  - tome 6y ago
    > > [Haskell] just drains all the joy and productivity out of my programming. > It's fine that you don't like the language. I mean, not everyone has to enjoy a language. On the other hand, there's a difference between voicing an opinion, which is personal, and making claims like ... Indeed. Different people find different things fun: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25711790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25711790

by pyrale 6y ago

JabavuAdams 6y ago

No, it's really not. Haskell is a pain in the ass to program in. It's a language developed for mathematicians, not the real world. It makes the same mistakes as OpenCyc and expert systems. I know assembly, C, C++, Scheme, Common Lisp, Python, MATLAB, C#, some D, some Javascript, some Mathematica. Programming in Haskell looks promising initially, but just drains all the joy and productivity out of my programming.

pyrale 6y ago
> [Haskell] just drains all the joy and productivity out of my programming. It's fine that you don't like the language. I mean, not everyone has to enjoy a language. On the other hand, there's a difference between voicing an opinion, which is personal, and making claims like: > Haskell is a pain in the ass to program in. It's a language developed for mathematicians, not the real world. Because then, you are discarding other people's experience about the language, while you claim your own experience is relevant.
- tome 6y ago
  > > [Haskell] just drains all the joy and productivity out of my programming. > It's fine that you don't like the language. I mean, not everyone has to enjoy a language. On the other hand, there's a difference between voicing an opinion, which is personal, and making claims like ... Indeed. Different people find different things fun: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25711790 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25711790