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How do people seriously not see the parallels here? The way that the CCP, and most Chinese people, view the protestors in Hong Kong, is exactly the same way th
by thepasswordis 6y ago
How do people seriously not see the parallels here? The way that the CCP, and most Chinese people, view the protestors in Hong Kong, is exactly the same way that the US Government, as well as most of the US, view the protestors in DC on Weds.
HKers say they want democracy and fair elections. CCP and most Chinese think that's bullshit. MAGAs say they want democracy and fair elections. Most of the US Gov as well as most US citizens think that's bullshit.
CCP wants to ban "disharmonious activity" from social media. HKers think that's a front for suppression of dissent. US Gov wants to ban "hate speech" from social media. MAGA think that's just a front for suppression of dissent.
CCP runs pseudo-secret reeducation camps in Xianjian. US runs pseudo-secret detention camps at Guantanamo Bay.
Etc. etc. etc.
- ceejayoz 6y ago> The way that the CCP, and most Chinese people, view the protestors in Hong Kong, is exactly the same way that the US Government, as well as most of the US, view the protestors in DC on Weds. We're not counting the President of the United States as part of the US Government?
- thepasswordis 6y agoIs this a joke? Trump is the most anti-CCP president in the last 40 years. Please watch this Pompeo speech if you want to know how the Trump admin feels towards China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7azj-t0gtPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7azj-t0gtPM
- ceejayoz 6y agoThe poster alleges the US Government opposes the DC protesters in the same way the CCP opposes the HK ones. That requires not considering the US President to be part of the US Government for it to be true.
- thepasswordis 6y agoThe US president has said that he will use the full power of the government to track down and prosecute everybody involved in the capitol riot. I'd link you to the video of him saying this, but Twitter deleted it so I can't.
- ceejayoz 6y agoSure, and the blinky Vietnam POWs talking about their wonderful humane treatment just had a bunch of dust in their eyes. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/democrats-trump-impeachment.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/democrats-tru... > Behind closed doors, he made clear that he would not resign and expressed regret about releasing a video on Thursday committing to a peaceful transition of power and condemning the violence at the Capitol that he had egged on a day before.
- thepasswordis 6y agoPeople who were at the Capitol have already started being picked off the streets by police. Many of the more prominent people have already been arrested, and there are large scale efforts to identify the rest.
- keepFlagn88 6y agoThe same President whose own party says he’s done nothing to focus on the pandemic but play golf and fume over headlines as his government resigns? https://www.adn.com/politics/2021/01/08/alaska-sen-lisa-murkowski-calls-on-president-trump-to-resign-questions-her-future-as-a-republican/ https://www.adn.com/politics/2021/01/08/alaska-sen-lisa-murk... I am sure he will take things seriously over the next couple weeks. Flag all you want; unlike you donkeys I don’t care about useless internet karma on anonymous accounts. You’re just proving yourself a hypocrite over suppression of speech HN can block the entire T-Mobile IP block for all I care Your cognitive dissonance is stunning. “Man who failed upward his whole life will turn it around any minute now.” Right, that’s how brains work. Sure
- keepFlagn88 6y ago
- DaedPsyker 6y agoThey are referring to that fact that Trump is a member of the government that his supporters railed against. Admittedly not wholly fair statement as US is a congressional system, not a parliamentarian with clear cut government and opposition.
- butMaga88 6y agoMeanwhile his former transportation secretary’s sister is married to Xi. Elaine was briefly in trouble with the media for inviting family to government meetings. But despite the mass media being a known political collaborator, let’s merely take the content you cherry picked at face value. Power is in bed with power. Trying to paint one side or another as above that, ignoring facts of biology for political rhetoric is putting your head in the sand.
- justinzollars 6y ago> How do people seriously not see the parallels here? The way that the CCP, and most Chinese people, view the protestors in Hong Kong, is exactly the same way that the US Government You need to read more about China. What you believe is simply not true. China is internally focused, The west is externally focused.
- thepasswordis 6y agoChina thinks that HK affairs are "internal affairs".
- Grimm1 6y agoThinking something does not make it true.
- justinzollars 6y agoAbsolutely
- boardwaalk 6y agoParallels of vague kind maybe, but it seems like you're way too close to a false equivalency for comfort here.
- butMaga88 6y agoProve that MAGA supporters did not just get a free and fair election and simply lost. The GOP has a gerrymandered mathematical advantage and still lost. At what point to the unaligned and left leaning folks, who won by majority vote, get to have their voice heard? When did evidence become optional?
- butMaga88 6y agoHaha flagged in a thread complaining about suppression of speech What a hypocritical joke this forum is “But you disagreed with my contrived narrative, despite it containing rants about censorship! ban” Words mean nothing. Literal reality defines truth.
- verall 6y agoGuantanamo is a terrible violation of human rights but it's not a cultural genocide like Xianjiang. It is okay to compare these but absurd to conclude they are equivalent. Have you actually been to HK or Beijing? I think you will find the way that the way HK protestors are viewed is not very similar to how BLM or the MAGA capital protest is viewed.