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"once winter ends" I've been wondering about that. In June things were just great, but at the same time our health agency (RIVM) claims COVID-19 is not affected

by Aachen 6y ago

"once winter ends" I've been wondering about that. In June things were just great, but at the same time our health agency (RIVM) claims COVID-19 is not affected by seasons. Are they lying (since they're saying "is not" instead of "might not" / "unknown"), or was what happened around June a coincidence?

GuB-42 6y ago
I can't believe it is not a bit seasonal, whatever the reason is. First wave ended in June in the northern hemisphere and started in the southern hemisphere at about the same time. We are seeing a similar shift in the second wave. It can be a coincidence but since people are more likely to stay inside when it is cold outside, and transmission is more likely inside, it makes sense.
- hutzlibu 6y ago
  "It can be a coincidence" Since the cold season is usually when it is cold outside, yeah. Might be more than coincidence.
iso1210 6y ago
More non-covid hospital pressure in winter. More people inside.
graeme 6y ago
On what basis are they saying it? Every single other coronavirus is seasonal, so I don’t see why this one wouldn’t be. Have a look at hcov’s seasonality in figure 2 here: https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-virology-012420-022445 https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-virology-0... “It’s not seasonal” is one of the mantras health agencies repeated in february, along with “masks aren’t shown to work” and “it doesn’t” spread by aerosol. My guess is your health agency simply hasn’t re-examined their beliefs as evidence came in.
gomjabbar 6y ago
Hello from summer in Australia right now
- iso1210 6y ago
  NZ doesn't count as there's no cases. Austrialia has big problems in Austrailian 'winter', July through September, when daily cases were far higher
eli_gottlieb 6y ago
Easier in summer to just open every window and get enough of a breeze that it's harder to infect people.

by Aachen 6y ago

GuB-42 6y ago

I can't believe it is not a bit seasonal, whatever the reason is. First wave ended in June in the northern hemisphere and started in the southern hemisphere at about the same time. We are seeing a similar shift in the second wave. It can be a coincidence but since people are more likely to stay inside when it is cold outside, and transmission is more likely inside, it makes sense.

hutzlibu 6y ago
"It can be a coincidence" Since the cold season is usually when it is cold outside, yeah. Might be more than coincidence.

iso1210 6y ago

More non-covid hospital pressure in winter. More people inside.

graeme 6y ago

On what basis are they saying it? Every single other coronavirus is seasonal, so I don’t see why this one wouldn’t be. Have a look at hcov’s seasonality in figure 2 here: https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-virology-012420-022445 https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-virology-0... “It’s not seasonal” is one of the mantras health agencies repeated in february, along with “masks aren’t shown to work” and “it doesn’t” spread by aerosol. My guess is your health agency simply hasn’t re-examined their beliefs as evidence came in.

gomjabbar 6y ago

Hello from summer in Australia right now

iso1210 6y ago
NZ doesn't count as there's no cases. Austrialia has big problems in Austrailian 'winter', July through September, when daily cases were far higher

eli_gottlieb 6y ago

Easier in summer to just open every window and get enough of a breeze that it's harder to infect people.