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The grassroots WalkAway group was removed from Facebook today. It was not about Q and had only encouraged rallies and protests, and did not condone breaking int

The grassroots WalkAway group was removed from Facebook today. It was not about Q and had only encouraged rallies and protests, and did not condone breaking into government buildings. It was a repository of hundreds of thousands of video and text testimonials from ex-Democrats explaining why they felt alienated, often by seeing events/individuals they felt were covered unfairly by the media or by cancel culture in their private life, and their lived experiences of why they left the party. Is that not useful information?

anigbrowl 6y ago
I dispute your contention that it's a grassroots thing, that's one of the most astroturfed political campaigns I've ever seen. It's a formula: minor right-wing celebrity announces they're going to city X to 'clean it up' or highlight some deficiency, makes a bunch of posts about it on social media announcing their itinerary, inevitably attracting some opposition from annoyed locals. Then they livestream the local opposition and say 'look how unreasonable these people are, #walkaway.'
- drak0n1c 6y ago
  I believe you’re confusing Scott Pressler the volunteer cleanup guy with Brandon Straka of WalkAway.
  - anigbrowl 6y ago
    I am not, because they work together. Search their names and you'll find plenty of examples of them pairing up to do this schtick. I've seen it in person.
tehbeard 6y ago
A victim of the algorithm perhaps? Or too many links on the social graph to the more problematic elements. I don't mean to rationalize its removal. It sounds like a project that should exist, one that serves as a mirror for introspection. This isn't something new or that "the left" only does. In much the same way we see lgbtq groups closed because the algorithm or human moderator believes queerness == explicit sexual content rather than "a bunch of other humans"
gitrog 6y ago
I don't know anything about the WalkAway group, but from your description and nothing else it seems like it shouldn't have been taken down and that it could have been very useful. But I don't see how Facebook taking down the group is the fault of the Left at large (or in the US). I don't know many serious Leftists who are fond of Facebook, not to mention feel the company represents them.
- drak0n1c 6y ago
  My comment did not intend to attribute the corporate act to Leftism, intent was to show the parent commenter that it is flawed to assume all banned speech is the result of impartial enforcement of basic rules against malicious toxicity. Because there is a slippery slope in action every day - moderators are human and algorithms are based on badly conflated example data and that leads to bans like this one.

anigbrowl 6y ago

I dispute your contention that it's a grassroots thing, that's one of the most astroturfed political campaigns I've ever seen. It's a formula: minor right-wing celebrity announces they're going to city X to 'clean it up' or highlight some deficiency, makes a bunch of posts about it on social media announcing their itinerary, inevitably attracting some opposition from annoyed locals. Then they livestream the local opposition and say 'look how unreasonable these people are, #walkaway.'

drak0n1c 6y ago
I believe you’re confusing Scott Pressler the volunteer cleanup guy with Brandon Straka of WalkAway.
- anigbrowl 6y ago
  I am not, because they work together. Search their names and you'll find plenty of examples of them pairing up to do this schtick. I've seen it in person.

tehbeard 6y ago

A victim of the algorithm perhaps? Or too many links on the social graph to the more problematic elements. I don't mean to rationalize its removal. It sounds like a project that should exist, one that serves as a mirror for introspection. This isn't something new or that "the left" only does. In much the same way we see lgbtq groups closed because the algorithm or human moderator believes queerness == explicit sexual content rather than "a bunch of other humans"

gitrog 6y ago

I don't know anything about the WalkAway group, but from your description and nothing else it seems like it shouldn't have been taken down and that it could have been very useful. But I don't see how Facebook taking down the group is the fault of the Left at large (or in the US). I don't know many serious Leftists who are fond of Facebook, not to mention feel the company represents them.

drak0n1c 6y ago
My comment did not intend to attribute the corporate act to Leftism, intent was to show the parent commenter that it is flawed to assume all banned speech is the result of impartial enforcement of basic rules against malicious toxicity. Because there is a slippery slope in action every day - moderators are human and algorithms are based on badly conflated example data and that leads to bans like this one.