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Just wanna add that the left seems to believe what institutions and the legacy media tell them, at face value. Many on the right use critical thinking, however

Just wanna add that the left seems to believe what institutions and the legacy media tell them, at face value. Many on the right use critical thinking, however they seem to believe that numbers and “science” can be spun into any narrative the gatekeepers want (whoever they may be). Most of the schism really seems to be based on trust. Left trusts by default, the right does not. The left trusts that the government knows best, the right does not. The right believes in personal responsibility for running your life (not trusting it to any other party), the left does not, requiring collectivism and social programs.

8note 6y ago
Nah, the right trusts everything the tv and radio hosts tell them. There's a difference in what and who to trust, but both trust a plenty
- rangoon626 6y ago
  > Nah, the right trusts everything the tv and radio hosts tell them. I don't agree. The media, as a whole, leans left. Except for comparatively far fewer right leaning news outlets. I don't think I can name a single newspaper that doesn't have a left slant. LA Times, NY Times, WashPo are the giants, plus any of your local city newspapers. People on the right are not likely to trust any of those entities. For news stations there's CNN, NBC, ABC, which all lean left. For the right, there's Fox and a couple a low-key bum ones like OANN and NewsMax. Again, right leaning people are likely to view most of tv media sources as untrustworthy.
  - owowow 6y ago
    The media leans neoliberal, not left. You never see leftist leaders painted in a good light by CNN, ABC, NBC, WashPo, NY Times or LA Times, as those leaders threaten the continued consolidation of wealth by the upper class.
    - tannedNerd 6y ago
      Show me the hit pieces on AOC and the squad that weren’t op eds then?
      - NeutronStar 6y ago
        Show me the non-hit pieces on AOC and the squad that weren’t op eds then?
ativzzz 6y ago
From my experience, the right is terrible at judging who to trust (i mean most people are really). They mistrust the government for instance, and rightly so, for you should have a healthy distrust of the government. However, they then go and trust absolute quacks like anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, Trump, etc. ??? I've seen some of the links shared in right wing forums (I used to frequent one a few years ago), and the sources they link scream "bullshit" to me, and not because I disagree with what they say. It's just that life experience of identifying what is BS and what is not necessarily BS. Some people just will not believe authority, but will believe the first thing they see that goes against mainstream.
- rangoon626 6y ago
  > trust absolute quacks like anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, Trump, etc. ??? PR agencies send their love
- finder83 6y ago
  Maybe unrelated, but there's actually largely even distribution of anti-vaxxers between left and right. It's not an issue split by political affiliation. You could say the same about conspiracy theorists, but it'd probably be more difficult to poll/test.
all_factz 6y ago
Yes, the left trusts “science”, broadly. That’s because when we see 99% of scientists in a field claiming something, we don’t pretend we know better than them. We respect science, we understand on some level the work that goes into good science, and so we aren’t arrogant arses.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  > we understand on some level the work that goes into good science Meanwhile people who are informed on the state of actual science say "50% of published research is false." https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...
  - all_factz 6y ago
    I mean, as the paper says: > Second, most research questions are addressed by many teams, and it is misleading to emphasize the statistically significant findings of any single team. What matters is the totality of the evidence. I think few people would refute this.
    - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
      > What matters is the totality of the evidence. If half of the evidence contradicts the other half would it be fair to conclude that we don’t know much about the things we have researched?
- artichokes 6y ago
  93% of surveyed geneticists and behavioral psychologists claim that the black-white IQ gap has a non-zero genetic component. Do you know better than them? https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.00399/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.0039...
  - dogwhistle111 6y ago
subsection1h 6y ago
> Many on the right use critical thinking [...] Left trusts by default, the right does not. LOL. Only 4 percent of the nonreligious people who participated in the 2017 Baylor Religion Survey voted for Trump. 4 fucking percent. https://www.baylor.edu/baylorreligionsurvey/index.php?id=942304 https://www.baylor.edu/baylorreligionsurvey/index.php?id=942...
- rangoon626 6y ago
  And what percentage of religious people voted for HRC?

8note 6y ago

Nah, the right trusts everything the tv and radio hosts tell them. There's a difference in what and who to trust, but both trust a plenty

rangoon626 6y ago
> Nah, the right trusts everything the tv and radio hosts tell them. I don't agree. The media, as a whole, leans left. Except for comparatively far fewer right leaning news outlets. I don't think I can name a single newspaper that doesn't have a left slant. LA Times, NY Times, WashPo are the giants, plus any of your local city newspapers. People on the right are not likely to trust any of those entities. For news stations there's CNN, NBC, ABC, which all lean left. For the right, there's Fox and a couple a low-key bum ones like OANN and NewsMax. Again, right leaning people are likely to view most of tv media sources as untrustworthy.
- owowow 6y ago
  The media leans neoliberal, not left. You never see leftist leaders painted in a good light by CNN, ABC, NBC, WashPo, NY Times or LA Times, as those leaders threaten the continued consolidation of wealth by the upper class.
  - tannedNerd 6y ago
    Show me the hit pieces on AOC and the squad that weren’t op eds then?
    - NeutronStar 6y ago
      Show me the non-hit pieces on AOC and the squad that weren’t op eds then?

ativzzz 6y ago

From my experience, the right is terrible at judging who to trust (i mean most people are really). They mistrust the government for instance, and rightly so, for you should have a healthy distrust of the government. However, they then go and trust absolute quacks like anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, Trump, etc. ??? I've seen some of the links shared in right wing forums (I used to frequent one a few years ago), and the sources they link scream "bullshit" to me, and not because I disagree with what they say. It's just that life experience of identifying what is BS and what is not necessarily BS. Some people just will not believe authority, but will believe the first thing they see that goes against mainstream.

rangoon626 6y ago
> trust absolute quacks like anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, Trump, etc. ??? PR agencies send their love
finder83 6y ago
Maybe unrelated, but there's actually largely even distribution of anti-vaxxers between left and right. It's not an issue split by political affiliation. You could say the same about conspiracy theorists, but it'd probably be more difficult to poll/test.

all_factz 6y ago

Yes, the left trusts “science”, broadly. That’s because when we see 99% of scientists in a field claiming something, we don’t pretend we know better than them. We respect science, we understand on some level the work that goes into good science, and so we aren’t arrogant arses.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago
> we understand on some level the work that goes into good science Meanwhile people who are informed on the state of actual science say "50% of published research is false." https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...
- all_factz 6y ago
  I mean, as the paper says: > Second, most research questions are addressed by many teams, and it is misleading to emphasize the statistically significant findings of any single team. What matters is the totality of the evidence. I think few people would refute this.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    > What matters is the totality of the evidence. If half of the evidence contradicts the other half would it be fair to conclude that we don’t know much about the things we have researched?
artichokes 6y ago
93% of surveyed geneticists and behavioral psychologists claim that the black-white IQ gap has a non-zero genetic component. Do you know better than them? https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.00399/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.0039...
- dogwhistle111 6y ago

subsection1h 6y ago

> Many on the right use critical thinking [...] Left trusts by default, the right does not. LOL. Only 4 percent of the nonreligious people who participated in the 2017 Baylor Religion Survey voted for Trump. 4 fucking percent. https://www.baylor.edu/baylorreligionsurvey/index.php?id=942304 https://www.baylor.edu/baylorreligionsurvey/index.php?id=942...

rangoon626 6y ago
And what percentage of religious people voted for HRC?