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Makes sense. They just set a policy and he immediately attempted a workaround. Let's have the free speech discussions debated through representatives. I can ag

Makes sense. They just set a policy and he immediately attempted a workaround. Let's have the free speech discussions debated through representatives. I can agree that violence should be removed by platforms immediately, and that "Stop the Steal" did promote just that.

app4soft 6y ago
Here is better explained article on "The Washington Post".[0] P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too: > The page you were looking for doesn't exist here anymore. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter-trump-dorsey/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter... [1] https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump
- erichocean 6y ago
  When Biden moves to the White House, he should remove Trump's Presidential portrait from the wall. Completely unperson the guy, like he never existed.
  - gamblor956 6y ago
    That is only done for Presidents that are removed via the impeachment process. As a result, it has never actually happened. (While several presidents have been impeached in the House, the latter half of the process has never been successfully sustained in the Senate.)
    - erichocean 6y ago
      Surely we can make an exception when a President leads an insurrection against his own country…
      - pseudalopex 6y ago
        Why not impeach and remove him?
  - another_sock 6y ago
    Yes like that picture of Stalin and Nikolai Yezhov!
    - erichocean 6y ago
      Or like tearing down Confederate statues. There's no need to commemorate hate.
      - another_sock 6y ago
        Yes, also we should remove references to people in history books.
      - salawat 6y ago
        Denying where you've been ensures you repeat it. The alcoholic who cannot control himself when surrounded by alcohol is not truly cured of their alcoholism. The drink still controls them, because it directs them away from any cohabitance with alcohol. The same with our sordid past.
  - ethbr0 6y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Son_of_Man#/media/File%3AMagritte_TheSonOfMan.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Son_of_Man#/media/File%3... except, an orange
  - DonHopkins 6y ago
    No, better yet: they should just place Obama's portrait in front of it.
  - Balgair 6y ago
    Hard disagree. Permanent reminders of these failure need to be installed in very public places. The ideas and things that have resulted in the 37th of December (because 2020 didn't really stop) must be addressed. They are as a part of the US as the 3/5ths compromise on human life. Trying to power wash these stains away is not going to help the US. Meandering, uncomfortable, long, and difficult conversations are the best cure. There are no cheats to this, and there are no deferrals. Each US citizen is in this birthright.
  - app4soft 6y ago
    That is what was happen with an official website of the President of Ukraine[0] when Zelenskyy came into the office after Poroshenko on May 2019: all data & photo archive, stored until May 2019, was fully removed from website by new admins. But that is another story... P.S. In 2018 I uploaded photo of the highest flagpole with the State Flag of Ukraine from presidential website to Wikimedia Commons archive[3] (as photo archive was under CreativeCommons). Since 2019 this photo was removed[4] from presidential website... Probably that is the only survived direct copy of this photo (except those which are available in Internet Archive's WaybackMachine snapshots of this site). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [0] https://president.gov.ua https://president.gov.ua [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20190520174801/https://www.president.gov.ua/en http://web.archive.org/web/20190520174801/https://www.presid... [2] http://web.archive.org/web/20190519173435/https://www.president.gov.ua/en/ http://web.archive.org/web/20190519173435/https://www.presid... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Ukraine_over_city_Dnipro.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Ukraine_over... [4] http://web.archive.org/web/20190421232312/https://www.president.gov.ua/photos/foto-dnya-serpen-2018-roku-2018 http://web.archive.org/web/20190421232312/https://www.presid...
- elliekelly 6y ago
  Can someone explain how mastodon is able to remove an account? I thought the whole point of mastodon was that there wasn’t any one single group who controlled the platform?
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    Mastodon is federated. mastodon.social is a server run by Mastodon developers. Other servers are independent.
- bmarquez 6y ago
  > P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too For some reason, I thought that Mastadon was supposed to be free from censorship (for the sake of discussion, let's just call it that) because you could run your own servers. Did Trump get removed from a specific server or from Mastadon in general? Or did everyone else choose not to link (not sure of the terminology) with him? And if it's possible to get removed from Mastadon, what makes it different than an ad-free clone of Twitter?
  - afuchs 6y ago
    This looks like a specific account on an individual server. (which could have been registered by anyone) Each Mastodon instance chooses which other instances they can federate with (whitelist or blacklist). Given that Mastodon's early adopters included a large amount of people who switched because they thought Twitter should have banned more people (often because of perceived harassment), they tend to quickly ban or blacklist anyone they see as bad actors. It's free from censorship in the sense that someone could run their own server, but doesn't guarantee an audience.

app4soft 6y ago

Here is better explained article on "The Washington Post".[0] P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too: > The page you were looking for doesn't exist here anymore. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter-trump-dorsey/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/08/twitter... [1] https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump https://mastodon.social/@realDonaldTrump

erichocean 6y ago
When Biden moves to the White House, he should remove Trump's Presidential portrait from the wall. Completely unperson the guy, like he never existed.
- gamblor956 6y ago
  That is only done for Presidents that are removed via the impeachment process. As a result, it has never actually happened. (While several presidents have been impeached in the House, the latter half of the process has never been successfully sustained in the Senate.)
  - erichocean 6y ago
    Surely we can make an exception when a President leads an insurrection against his own country…
    - pseudalopex 6y ago
      Why not impeach and remove him?
- another_sock 6y ago
  Yes like that picture of Stalin and Nikolai Yezhov!
  - erichocean 6y ago
    Or like tearing down Confederate statues. There's no need to commemorate hate.
    - another_sock 6y ago
      Yes, also we should remove references to people in history books.
    - salawat 6y ago
      Denying where you've been ensures you repeat it. The alcoholic who cannot control himself when surrounded by alcohol is not truly cured of their alcoholism. The drink still controls them, because it directs them away from any cohabitance with alcohol. The same with our sordid past.
- ethbr0 6y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Son_of_Man#/media/File%3AMagritte_TheSonOfMan.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Son_of_Man#/media/File%3... except, an orange
- DonHopkins 6y ago
  No, better yet: they should just place Obama's portrait in front of it.
- Balgair 6y ago
  Hard disagree. Permanent reminders of these failure need to be installed in very public places. The ideas and things that have resulted in the 37th of December (because 2020 didn't really stop) must be addressed. They are as a part of the US as the 3/5ths compromise on human life. Trying to power wash these stains away is not going to help the US. Meandering, uncomfortable, long, and difficult conversations are the best cure. There are no cheats to this, and there are no deferrals. Each US citizen is in this birthright.
- app4soft 6y ago
  That is what was happen with an official website of the President of Ukraine[0] when Zelenskyy came into the office after Poroshenko on May 2019: all data & photo archive, stored until May 2019, was fully removed from website by new admins. But that is another story... P.S. In 2018 I uploaded photo of the highest flagpole with the State Flag of Ukraine from presidential website to Wikimedia Commons archive[3] (as photo archive was under CreativeCommons). Since 2019 this photo was removed[4] from presidential website... Probably that is the only survived direct copy of this photo (except those which are available in Internet Archive's WaybackMachine snapshots of this site). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [0] https://president.gov.ua https://president.gov.ua [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20190520174801/https://www.president.gov.ua/en http://web.archive.org/web/20190520174801/https://www.presid... [2] http://web.archive.org/web/20190519173435/https://www.president.gov.ua/en/ http://web.archive.org/web/20190519173435/https://www.presid... [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Ukraine_over_city_Dnipro.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Ukraine_over... [4] http://web.archive.org/web/20190421232312/https://www.president.gov.ua/photos/foto-dnya-serpen-2018-roku-2018 http://web.archive.org/web/20190421232312/https://www.presid...
elliekelly 6y ago
Can someone explain how mastodon is able to remove an account? I thought the whole point of mastodon was that there wasn’t any one single group who controlled the platform?
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  Mastodon is federated. mastodon.social is a server run by Mastodon developers. Other servers are independent.
bmarquez 6y ago
> P.S. He is also removed from Mastodon[1] too For some reason, I thought that Mastadon was supposed to be free from censorship (for the sake of discussion, let's just call it that) because you could run your own servers. Did Trump get removed from a specific server or from Mastadon in general? Or did everyone else choose not to link (not sure of the terminology) with him? And if it's possible to get removed from Mastadon, what makes it different than an ad-free clone of Twitter?
- afuchs 6y ago
  This looks like a specific account on an individual server. (which could have been registered by anyone) Each Mastodon instance chooses which other instances they can federate with (whitelist or blacklist). Given that Mastodon's early adopters included a large amount of people who switched because they thought Twitter should have banned more people (often because of perceived harassment), they tend to quickly ban or blacklist anyone they see as bad actors. It's free from censorship in the sense that someone could run their own server, but doesn't guarantee an audience.