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It’s not censorship, private businesses have the right to decide what they sell in their stores. Parlour can still distribute itself as a web app, no problem.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago
Then it's still censorship; private businesses simply have the right to censor.
- criddell 6y ago
  If you’re going to call it censorship if Walmart refuses to sell a product I make, then you are really watering down what that word means.
- valuearb 6y ago
  Nope. Censorship: the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. A private business not distributing a product because it doesn’t represent their or their customers values isn’t censorship, it’s a marketing decision. If Walmart decides to stop carrying Coke because of its sugar content, is that “censorship”? If a girl decides not to date you, is that censorship of your free speech rights to bore her? The advocates for Parlours right of distribution don’t actually believe in individual rights, or they would argue it has to be imposed on the App Stores.
  - Blikkentrekker 6y ago
    > Censorship: the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. And this was indeed done because it was considered politically unacceptable and a threat to security. > A private business not distributing a product because it doesn’t represent their or their customers values isn’t censorship, it’s a marketing decision. The problem is your thinking that those two are some exclusionary. The censorship that most company practice is of course for financial gain. > The advocates for Parlours right of distribution don’t actually believe in individual rights, or they would argue it has to be imposed on the App Stores. Nor does their believing in free speech or not have anything to do with whether this is censorship.
throwaway54095 6y ago
So then, can a restaurant refuse service, to filter what kind of customers would allow to let in, let's say on criterias like: only men, only white people, everybody but gay people? It's a private business after all. Especially if they are still available to deliver without any filter.
- valuearb 6y ago
  Is this a cannibalistic restaurant? Are they serving customers other customers? What does discretion in the products a restaurant sells have to do with the customers it sells to? Whataboutisms galore.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago

Then it's still censorship; private businesses simply have the right to censor.

criddell 6y ago
If you’re going to call it censorship if Walmart refuses to sell a product I make, then you are really watering down what that word means.
valuearb 6y ago
Nope. Censorship: the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. A private business not distributing a product because it doesn’t represent their or their customers values isn’t censorship, it’s a marketing decision. If Walmart decides to stop carrying Coke because of its sugar content, is that “censorship”? If a girl decides not to date you, is that censorship of your free speech rights to bore her? The advocates for Parlours right of distribution don’t actually believe in individual rights, or they would argue it has to be imposed on the App Stores.
- Blikkentrekker 6y ago
  > Censorship: the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. And this was indeed done because it was considered politically unacceptable and a threat to security. > A private business not distributing a product because it doesn’t represent their or their customers values isn’t censorship, it’s a marketing decision. The problem is your thinking that those two are some exclusionary. The censorship that most company practice is of course for financial gain. > The advocates for Parlours right of distribution don’t actually believe in individual rights, or they would argue it has to be imposed on the App Stores. Nor does their believing in free speech or not have anything to do with whether this is censorship.

throwaway54095 6y ago

So then, can a restaurant refuse service, to filter what kind of customers would allow to let in, let's say on criterias like: only men, only white people, everybody but gay people? It's a private business after all. Especially if they are still available to deliver without any filter.

valuearb 6y ago
Is this a cannibalistic restaurant? Are they serving customers other customers? What does discretion in the products a restaurant sells have to do with the customers it sells to? Whataboutisms galore.