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I'm basically seeing 4 posts about "kill <group/group-leader>" and otherwise standard speeches... and then someone later posts screenshots about Jan 20 re-org p

by setr 6y ago

I'm basically seeing 4 posts about "kill <group/group-leader>" and otherwise standard speeches... and then someone later posts screenshots about Jan 20 re-org posted on twitter.. It seems like the basic political discourse you find on twitter, fb and every other social media system, both red and blue posters, at pretty much the same level of intelligence; I'm really not seeing anything there that doesn't equally merit the banning of, well, every other social media app.

wnevets 6y ago
How about these [1], are they just basic political discourse find on twitter, fb and every other social media system? [1] https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1347190280492089344 https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1347190280492089344
- zests 6y ago
  Social media is universally terrible, you might be the last one to notice.
- setr 6y ago
  ...yes? What do you think gets posted during basically every political event? BLM, obama election, trump election, biden election, etc... Calls for riot and murder are like the standard go-to on social media, if only because extreme posts gather a lot more steam than anything diluted. I mean shit we just went through 4 years of liberals and conservatives fighting over this shit dramatically all over twitter -- I'm really struggling to find the new extremes you're finding in these; the only thing I can figure is you're giving it more weight because this topic translated into physical activity, where most such content just flames up digitally and dies out
  - wnevets 6y ago
    So what exactly is your threshold before Google should be allowed remove a social media platform from their app store?
    - setr 6y ago
      I’m only really concerned with consistency. This is just selective enforcement, with fairly obvious political motivation and timing. Google doesn’t just randomly grow a set of morals and balls after a decade of silence about similar behavior by/on Twitter, fb, yikyak, tiktok, Snapchat, etc. Hell, even encouragement if you count things like planning terrorist attacks and successfully killing/harming dozens on WhatsApp, and not immediately banning the application, as well as probably every communication system available on the phone.
      - wnevets 6y ago
        What exactly do you think is inconsistent? Parler allows its users to openly plan violence. This past Wednesday has proven those plans weren't empty.
      - Faark 6y ago
        If similar behavior would be fine on twitter, fb and the like, those people wouldn't have fled to parler in the first place. Not being great at enforcing rules on social media is not on the same level as intending not to have those rules. Equating private with public messaging is ridiculous. Not sure how laws are in the US, but when doing support here in germany we had to have private in-game messages reported by a participant before we were even allowed to look at them. The company obviously had a much easier time shaping the atmosphere in the public forum. And if you only care about outcomes like never having a terrorist attack... well, I don't see how this could ever happen without in-depth control by government or the like. China-style is probably the closest example we have, and that's not a trade-off i would want to make.
- verwyrelevant 6y ago
  There was a story about a lady tweeting something like "kill all white men" on Twitter. She got cancelled, but Twitter is still here obviously.
- throwawaylolx 6y ago
  How about these? https://i.ibb.co/5xMfsGL/twitter.png https://i.ibb.co/5xMfsGL/twitter.png
  - wnevets 6y ago
    Looks like very nasty, tasteless, crud and even hateful tweets but I'm not see any plans to storm the white house to the murder people.
    - setr 6y ago
      If that’s all you’re looking for, then just check the responses section of the tweets you linked... https://twitter.com/EthanKrue/status/1347374487117946888 https://twitter.com/EthanKrue/status/1347374487117946888 (Re-)Storming the whitehouse on Jan 20, planning on twitter.
      - wnevets 6y ago
        Send me the links to the replies you think are bad.
        deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
        setr 6y ago
        I don’t understand, isn’t that what I did? Or I suppose, a link to a reply with screenshots of tweets clearly posted to Twitter?
        wnevets 6y ago
        Your link sends me to a tweet of screenshots of other people planning violence. How do I report those tweets if they're screenshots?
kumarvvr 6y ago
> It seems like the basic political discourse you find on twitter, fb and every other social media system Well that is one way to normalize Facist murderous wrecks and their abhorrent ideas.

by setr 6y ago

wnevets 6y ago

How about these [1], are they just basic political discourse find on twitter, fb and every other social media system? [1] https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1347190280492089344 https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1347190280492089344

zests 6y ago
Social media is universally terrible, you might be the last one to notice.
setr 6y ago
...yes? What do you think gets posted during basically every political event? BLM, obama election, trump election, biden election, etc... Calls for riot and murder are like the standard go-to on social media, if only because extreme posts gather a lot more steam than anything diluted. I mean shit we just went through 4 years of liberals and conservatives fighting over this shit dramatically all over twitter -- I'm really struggling to find the new extremes you're finding in these; the only thing I can figure is you're giving it more weight because this topic translated into physical activity, where most such content just flames up digitally and dies out
- wnevets 6y ago
  So what exactly is your threshold before Google should be allowed remove a social media platform from their app store?
  - setr 6y ago
    I’m only really concerned with consistency. This is just selective enforcement, with fairly obvious political motivation and timing. Google doesn’t just randomly grow a set of morals and balls after a decade of silence about similar behavior by/on Twitter, fb, yikyak, tiktok, Snapchat, etc. Hell, even encouragement if you count things like planning terrorist attacks and successfully killing/harming dozens on WhatsApp, and not immediately banning the application, as well as probably every communication system available on the phone.
    - wnevets 6y ago
      What exactly do you think is inconsistent? Parler allows its users to openly plan violence. This past Wednesday has proven those plans weren't empty.
    - Faark 6y ago
      If similar behavior would be fine on twitter, fb and the like, those people wouldn't have fled to parler in the first place. Not being great at enforcing rules on social media is not on the same level as intending not to have those rules. Equating private with public messaging is ridiculous. Not sure how laws are in the US, but when doing support here in germany we had to have private in-game messages reported by a participant before we were even allowed to look at them. The company obviously had a much easier time shaping the atmosphere in the public forum. And if you only care about outcomes like never having a terrorist attack... well, I don't see how this could ever happen without in-depth control by government or the like. China-style is probably the closest example we have, and that's not a trade-off i would want to make.
verwyrelevant 6y ago
There was a story about a lady tweeting something like "kill all white men" on Twitter. She got cancelled, but Twitter is still here obviously.
throwawaylolx 6y ago
How about these? https://i.ibb.co/5xMfsGL/twitter.png https://i.ibb.co/5xMfsGL/twitter.png
- wnevets 6y ago
  Looks like very nasty, tasteless, crud and even hateful tweets but I'm not see any plans to storm the white house to the murder people.
  - setr 6y ago
    If that’s all you’re looking for, then just check the responses section of the tweets you linked... https://twitter.com/EthanKrue/status/1347374487117946888 https://twitter.com/EthanKrue/status/1347374487117946888 (Re-)Storming the whitehouse on Jan 20, planning on twitter.
    - wnevets 6y ago
      Send me the links to the replies you think are bad.
      - deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
      - setr 6y ago
        I don’t understand, isn’t that what I did? Or I suppose, a link to a reply with screenshots of tweets clearly posted to Twitter?
        wnevets 6y ago
        Your link sends me to a tweet of screenshots of other people planning violence. How do I report those tweets if they're screenshots?

kumarvvr 6y ago

> It seems like the basic political discourse you find on twitter, fb and every other social media system Well that is one way to normalize Facist murderous wrecks and their abhorrent ideas.