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Now this makes the “cops let them in” conspiracy super interesting. The timing is pretty convenient!

blisterpeanuts 6y ago
Why did they do it? There's video footage showing cops literally pulling back the barricades and waving people in. I don't understand why they did that, and surely their not doing that would have prevented the subsequent violence?
- guscost 6y ago
  Another explanation is that it is “the blue” getting back at the left: https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/chicago-police-union-president-defends-those-who-stormed-us-capitol/6842fa80-3b83-4396-af05-a5f15f4ac740 https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/chicago-police-union-presid... Or, maybe the CIA just manipulated the blue into doing this! Conspiracy inception!
  - blisterpeanuts 6y ago
    I mean, Occam's Razor would suggest that the simplest explanation is also the most likely: the police made a mistake.
- scoopertrooper 6y ago
  I wish this incorrect notion would die, The cops didn't just let them in. The protesters pushed past the main barricades. After the cordon had been broken, the police retreated back towards the Capitol building. The police repeatedly did this until they were completely overwhelmed by the protesters. One police officer died in the melee and several others sustained injuries. The failure on the day was one of leadership and intelligence, but the poor guys on the ground did their best. https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/1346966514990149639?s=21 https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/134696651499014963... https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/krvssn/trump_supporters_engage_in_destructive_behavior/ https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/krvssn/trum... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krvboi/clashes_inside_the_us_capitol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krvboi/clas...
  - blisterpeanuts 6y ago
    There's video footage of the cops literally pulling back the barricades. See Millie Weaver on YT for example, and dozens of others.
    - scoopertrooper 6y ago
      Okay, I took your advice and found the relevant video on her Youtube channel; it pretty much confirmed what I said. > Speaker 1: There were a couple of groups that busted through, but other than that, I mean it was almost like they let everybody else through, like once a group kind of busted through just trying [inaudible] mad > Speaker 2: They were just trying to run away [inaudible] https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=52&v=BUE4TCLlv-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=52&v=BUE4TCLlv-c As they admit, the mob broke through part of the police lines, so the police retreated back to the Capitol building. Doing otherwise, would have allowed the remaining officers on the line to be encircled by the elements of the mob that had already broken through. In any event, nobody is all that mad that the Trump supporters made their way to the steps of the Capitol building, the central issue is that they actually broke into the building and started marauding and threatening its occupants. Your video does not allege that the Capitol Police let the protesters into the Capitol building. Rather, both your video and the ones I provided show they clearly did not. The mob made it in by climbing walls and scaffolding and smashing through windows and doors. Your video tries to blames Antifa, but that is completely illogical. True, it shows several people within the crowd decrying the forced entry and blaming Antifa, but yet somehow scores of confirmed Trump supporters made it inside the Capitol building. Did the Trump supporters just happen to be on a tour inside the building when Antifa broke down the doors? Did Antifa somehow force them to rampage through the place, beat police officers, steal, and vandalise property?
- anthuswilliams 6y ago
  A big part of it is likely that they didn't know if the National Guard would be called out if things got out of hand. I believe the police let them in because they were outnumbered and thought letting them through once the premises were evacuated would prevent an even worse outbreak of violence if they (the police) were overwhelmed by the crowd.

Why did they do it? There's video footage showing cops literally pulling back the barricades and waving people in. I don't understand why they did that, and surely their not doing that would have prevented the subsequent violence?

guscost 6y ago
Another explanation is that it is “the blue” getting back at the left: https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/chicago-police-union-president-defends-those-who-stormed-us-capitol/6842fa80-3b83-4396-af05-a5f15f4ac740 https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/chicago-police-union-presid... Or, maybe the CIA just manipulated the blue into doing this! Conspiracy inception!
- blisterpeanuts 6y ago
  I mean, Occam's Razor would suggest that the simplest explanation is also the most likely: the police made a mistake.
scoopertrooper 6y ago
I wish this incorrect notion would die, The cops didn't just let them in. The protesters pushed past the main barricades. After the cordon had been broken, the police retreated back towards the Capitol building. The police repeatedly did this until they were completely overwhelmed by the protesters. One police officer died in the melee and several others sustained injuries. The failure on the day was one of leadership and intelligence, but the poor guys on the ground did their best. https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/1346966514990149639?s=21 https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/134696651499014963... https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/krvssn/trump_supporters_engage_in_destructive_behavior/ https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/krvssn/trum... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krvboi/clashes_inside_the_us_capitol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krvboi/clas...
- blisterpeanuts 6y ago
  There's video footage of the cops literally pulling back the barricades. See Millie Weaver on YT for example, and dozens of others.
  - scoopertrooper 6y ago
    Okay, I took your advice and found the relevant video on her Youtube channel; it pretty much confirmed what I said. > Speaker 1: There were a couple of groups that busted through, but other than that, I mean it was almost like they let everybody else through, like once a group kind of busted through just trying [inaudible] mad > Speaker 2: They were just trying to run away [inaudible] https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=52&v=BUE4TCLlv-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=52&v=BUE4TCLlv-c As they admit, the mob broke through part of the police lines, so the police retreated back to the Capitol building. Doing otherwise, would have allowed the remaining officers on the line to be encircled by the elements of the mob that had already broken through. In any event, nobody is all that mad that the Trump supporters made their way to the steps of the Capitol building, the central issue is that they actually broke into the building and started marauding and threatening its occupants. Your video does not allege that the Capitol Police let the protesters into the Capitol building. Rather, both your video and the ones I provided show they clearly did not. The mob made it in by climbing walls and scaffolding and smashing through windows and doors. Your video tries to blames Antifa, but that is completely illogical. True, it shows several people within the crowd decrying the forced entry and blaming Antifa, but yet somehow scores of confirmed Trump supporters made it inside the Capitol building. Did the Trump supporters just happen to be on a tour inside the building when Antifa broke down the doors? Did Antifa somehow force them to rampage through the place, beat police officers, steal, and vandalise property?
anthuswilliams 6y ago
A big part of it is likely that they didn't know if the National Guard would be called out if things got out of hand. I believe the police let them in because they were outnumbered and thought letting them through once the premises were evacuated would prevent an even worse outbreak of violence if they (the police) were overwhelmed by the crowd.