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isn't anybody else creeped out by this??

by f430 6y ago

3adawi 6y ago
it's disgusting and I'm no republican or Trump supporter - 4/5 companies now completely control what people should say online
QuixoticQuibit 6y ago
No. We need to deplatform these fascist lunatics. They trust live in an alternate universe where killing politicians and cops is okay.
- maallooc 6y ago
  BLM?
- Thorentis 6y ago
  I seem to remember another group calling for the killing of politicians and cops recently. Huge protests, rioting, burning down police precincts. Some three letter acronym I can't remember...
  - ceph_ 6y ago
    Its amazing you can take the message of "cops shouldn't kill people" and spin it to be about killing the cops. It's a view of the world detached from reality.
    - f430 6y ago
      Amen. I mean Awomen.
    - 4234 6y ago
      The message was really "COPS ARE KILLING BLACK PEOPLE," yet most people killed by police are white (somehow none of these ever seem to merit national, 24/7 news coverage), and while a disproportionate number killed are black, they also commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime and have more violent encounters with police.
      - f430 6y ago
        I don't know about stats but lets see the big picture: they were brought over as slaves, abused for generations, and then put in shitty economic environments where there is no education, only poverty. Crime goes hand in hand with poverty, and it builds stereotypes and biases that makes it easier for incarceration which in America is just privatized slave labor market who makes mundane everyday items.
        4234 6y ago
        >I don't know about stats That's typical of BLM supporters. Even intelligent, supposedly scientifically minded people no longer see fit to consult the raw data. They know it's out there, somewhere, but that they're not supposed to look at it. > Crime goes hand in hand with poverty Race is actually a better predictor of crime than poverty. But it should be obvious by now that a large part of the disparity is due to the media inciting hatred for whites amongst blacks. Look at the recent spate of "random attacks" (there's nothing random about them) in NYC in the last few months: > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54396065 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54396065 > https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/stranger-randomly-bashes-woman-with-brick-in-manhattan-police-say/2799320/ https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/stranger-randomly-bash... > https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/man-busted-for-series-of-attacks-on-women-in-nyc-subway-station/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/man-busted-for-series-of-attac... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jfN1kXPiak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jfN1kXPiak Do you seriously believe this would be happening if the media weren't constantly propagandizing black people with a narrative of "unprovoked violence against innocent PoC by white racists?" I plan on leaving NYC sometime before 2024, since I assume the media will again create another "long, hot summer" to increase Democratic turnout, regardless of how many "random" attacks it incites.
    - f430 6y ago
      whoa its crazy when I wrote "amen & awomen" somebody flagged it. looks like HN isn't really immune to the madness that is gripping America.
    - ivojp 6y ago
      It doesn't take any spin to get that message from the graffiti all around Portland; it's pretty explicit about what to do to cops.
ardit33 6y ago
I am... I am democrat, but I feel this is deeply disturbing. I can see how apple doesn't like parler in its app store, and they have every right to remove it. It is a private company, and it shouldn't be forced to host apps that promote violence/whatever they feel is wrong. But, the fact that you can't download an app, or side-load an app, on any iphone without it being on the app store, makes this decision very worrying. Tim Cook and apple are being the arbiter of all speech/content, and this is very similar to autocratic countries where they ban entire sites (Like Erdogan did with youtube and twitter). One rich corporate exec should not have this much power... The solution is that all computing device makers, should have a away for their devices to be able to download/side-load apps, without having to go a centralized store. This is better for those countries that are ruled by autocrats as well, where the government suppresses free speech.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Tim Cook and apple are being the arbiter of all speech/content Well, yeah, Apple sells curated experiences. And people choose whether or not to buy those curated experiences. > and this is very similar to autocratic countries No, it's not.
  - ardit33 6y ago
    You are not getting the point. I am fine with apple removing any app it doesn't like from their app store, as long as you can sideload an app to iphones (like you can do with Android). The fact that you can't sideload, it makes it worrying as one exec has all the power on what you do with your phone.
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > You are not getting the point No, I'm disagreeing with your point. > I am fine with apple removing any app it doesn't like from their app store, as long as you can sideload an app to iphones (like you can do with Android). Sure, I have the same preference, which is why in my household there are 7 actively used Android devices and zero iOS devices. People with different preferences purchase Apple devices. > The fact that you can't sideload, it makes it worrying as one exec has all the power on what you do with your phone. If you choose to give them that power over your phone with your purchasing decisions.
tcpip 6y ago
yes. I'm generally a moderate - not a huge fan of Trump, but the multiple blocking actions today by twitter, Google, Facebook are very concerning

isn't anybody else creeped out by this??

by f430 6y ago

isn't anybody else creeped out by this??

it's disgusting and I'm no republican or Trump supporter - 4/5 companies now completely control what people should say online

QuixoticQuibit 6y ago

No. We need to deplatform these fascist lunatics. They trust live in an alternate universe where killing politicians and cops is okay.

maallooc 6y ago
BLM?
Thorentis 6y ago
I seem to remember another group calling for the killing of politicians and cops recently. Huge protests, rioting, burning down police precincts. Some three letter acronym I can't remember...
- ceph_ 6y ago
  Its amazing you can take the message of "cops shouldn't kill people" and spin it to be about killing the cops. It's a view of the world detached from reality.
  - f430 6y ago
    Amen. I mean Awomen.
  - 4234 6y ago
    The message was really "COPS ARE KILLING BLACK PEOPLE," yet most people killed by police are white (somehow none of these ever seem to merit national, 24/7 news coverage), and while a disproportionate number killed are black, they also commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime and have more violent encounters with police.
    - f430 6y ago
      I don't know about stats but lets see the big picture: they were brought over as slaves, abused for generations, and then put in shitty economic environments where there is no education, only poverty. Crime goes hand in hand with poverty, and it builds stereotypes and biases that makes it easier for incarceration which in America is just privatized slave labor market who makes mundane everyday items.
      - 4234 6y ago
        >I don't know about stats That's typical of BLM supporters. Even intelligent, supposedly scientifically minded people no longer see fit to consult the raw data. They know it's out there, somewhere, but that they're not supposed to look at it. > Crime goes hand in hand with poverty Race is actually a better predictor of crime than poverty. But it should be obvious by now that a large part of the disparity is due to the media inciting hatred for whites amongst blacks. Look at the recent spate of "random attacks" (there's nothing random about them) in NYC in the last few months: > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54396065 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54396065 > https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/stranger-randomly-bashes-woman-with-brick-in-manhattan-police-say/2799320/ https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/stranger-randomly-bash... > https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/man-busted-for-series-of-attacks-on-women-in-nyc-subway-station/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/man-busted-for-series-of-attac... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jfN1kXPiak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jfN1kXPiak Do you seriously believe this would be happening if the media weren't constantly propagandizing black people with a narrative of "unprovoked violence against innocent PoC by white racists?" I plan on leaving NYC sometime before 2024, since I assume the media will again create another "long, hot summer" to increase Democratic turnout, regardless of how many "random" attacks it incites.
  - f430 6y ago
    whoa its crazy when I wrote "amen & awomen" somebody flagged it. looks like HN isn't really immune to the madness that is gripping America.
  - ivojp 6y ago
    It doesn't take any spin to get that message from the graffiti all around Portland; it's pretty explicit about what to do to cops.

ardit33 6y ago

I am... I am democrat, but I feel this is deeply disturbing. I can see how apple doesn't like parler in its app store, and they have every right to remove it. It is a private company, and it shouldn't be forced to host apps that promote violence/whatever they feel is wrong. But, the fact that you can't download an app, or side-load an app, on any iphone without it being on the app store, makes this decision very worrying. Tim Cook and apple are being the arbiter of all speech/content, and this is very similar to autocratic countries where they ban entire sites (Like Erdogan did with youtube and twitter). One rich corporate exec should not have this much power... The solution is that all computing device makers, should have a away for their devices to be able to download/side-load apps, without having to go a centralized store. This is better for those countries that are ruled by autocrats as well, where the government suppresses free speech.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> Tim Cook and apple are being the arbiter of all speech/content Well, yeah, Apple sells curated experiences. And people choose whether or not to buy those curated experiences. > and this is very similar to autocratic countries No, it's not.
- ardit33 6y ago
  You are not getting the point. I am fine with apple removing any app it doesn't like from their app store, as long as you can sideload an app to iphones (like you can do with Android). The fact that you can't sideload, it makes it worrying as one exec has all the power on what you do with your phone.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > You are not getting the point No, I'm disagreeing with your point. > I am fine with apple removing any app it doesn't like from their app store, as long as you can sideload an app to iphones (like you can do with Android). Sure, I have the same preference, which is why in my household there are 7 actively used Android devices and zero iOS devices. People with different preferences purchase Apple devices. > The fact that you can't sideload, it makes it worrying as one exec has all the power on what you do with your phone. If you choose to give them that power over your phone with your purchasing decisions.

tcpip 6y ago

yes. I'm generally a moderate - not a huge fan of Trump, but the multiple blocking actions today by twitter, Google, Facebook are very concerning