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I don't support Trump, and I don't support his supporters or what happened at the capitol. I voted for Joe Biden this year, am a big supporter of my Democrat s

by blhack 6y ago

I don't support Trump, and I don't support his supporters or what happened at the capitol. I voted for Joe Biden this year, am a big supporter of my Democrat senators in Arizona (and hope to vote for Krysten Sinema as president one day specifically). This is wrong, and this is a massive overreach. This is not the internet that we dreamed about and that many of us worked to build. Very sad day.

vmception 6y ago
Cute disclaimers. As the government is not involved at all, the overreach argument doesn't apply. edit: okay. overreach/censorship in private sector doesn't bother me. thanks. make the antitrust case if it inconveniences you too much to make an alternative.
- blhack 6y ago
  >As the government is not involved at all, the overreach argument doesn't apply. Is it only the government which can overreach? I'm not sure I follow your argument. If apple hooked into my banking app and decided to lock my phone because they saw me buying marijuana, that would also be an overreach, and also has nothing to do with the government.
- kortilla 6y ago
  Overreach is not a government specific term.
  - vmception 6y ago
    okay. I think the nuance is you are missing is that I don't care about private sector using their first amendment right to freedom of association.
    - kortilla 6y ago
      I think the nuance you are missing is that people don’t care if you aren’t upset, but they absolutely are. And you should be skeptical of companies that do these things because this is how we end up with segregation, people refusing to bake cakes for gay weddings, etc.
- ekianjo 6y ago
  > As the government is not involved at all, the overreach argument doesn't apply. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/technology/90-percent-of-political-donations-from-google-related-companies-go-to-democrats-study https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/technology/90-perc... If Google gives most of its donations to Democrats, how can you believe that they will not do what Democrats want them to do? Also, Democrats have been very vocal about the fact that Google and Twitter did not "censor enough" recently. This is a nice follow-up.
  - vmception 6y ago
    It could equally be said that the Democrats will do what Google wants them to do. That would be more in line with how other industry donations result in. > how can you believe I never said anything about what I believe. If you believe the state is controlling some private organizations to conduct censorship, take it to a court.
anigbrowl 6y ago
70% of the country is sick of being threatened by the other 30%.
- Solvitieg 6y ago
  I didn't realize people were forced to use Parlor. This isn't about maintaining peace on their platforms or to protect users. Its about controling all conversations, everywhere
  - anigbrowl 6y ago
    Give this a read: https://www.mediaite.com/news/pro-trump-lawyer-lin-wood-calls-for-pence-to-be-executed-posts-get-removed-from-parler/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/pro-trump-lawyer-lin-wood-call... I don't know if Mike Pence uses Parler, but if pro-Trump lawyer and right wing influencer Lin Wood is calling for his execution, don't you think that represents something of a risk to Pence whether or not he reads it?
krastanov 6y ago
I do not really see how this is new or a big deal. These stores have always been walled gardens and I have never perceived them as anything resembling a public square. Moreover, the website is accessible and nothing stops people from using it. Apps are not the internet (thankfully). Pretending that the app store is the internet just gives these companies more power.

by blhack 6y ago

vmception 6y ago

Cute disclaimers. As the government is not involved at all, the overreach argument doesn't apply. edit: okay. overreach/censorship in private sector doesn't bother me. thanks. make the antitrust case if it inconveniences you too much to make an alternative.

blhack 6y ago
>As the government is not involved at all, the overreach argument doesn't apply. Is it only the government which can overreach? I'm not sure I follow your argument. If apple hooked into my banking app and decided to lock my phone because they saw me buying marijuana, that would also be an overreach, and also has nothing to do with the government.
kortilla 6y ago
Overreach is not a government specific term.
- vmception 6y ago
  okay. I think the nuance is you are missing is that I don't care about private sector using their first amendment right to freedom of association.
  - kortilla 6y ago
    I think the nuance you are missing is that people don’t care if you aren’t upset, but they absolutely are. And you should be skeptical of companies that do these things because this is how we end up with segregation, people refusing to bake cakes for gay weddings, etc.
ekianjo 6y ago
> As the government is not involved at all, the overreach argument doesn't apply. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/technology/90-percent-of-political-donations-from-google-related-companies-go-to-democrats-study https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/technology/90-perc... If Google gives most of its donations to Democrats, how can you believe that they will not do what Democrats want them to do? Also, Democrats have been very vocal about the fact that Google and Twitter did not "censor enough" recently. This is a nice follow-up.
- vmception 6y ago
  It could equally be said that the Democrats will do what Google wants them to do. That would be more in line with how other industry donations result in. > how can you believe I never said anything about what I believe. If you believe the state is controlling some private organizations to conduct censorship, take it to a court.

anigbrowl 6y ago

70% of the country is sick of being threatened by the other 30%.

Solvitieg 6y ago
I didn't realize people were forced to use Parlor. This isn't about maintaining peace on their platforms or to protect users. Its about controling all conversations, everywhere
- anigbrowl 6y ago
  Give this a read: https://www.mediaite.com/news/pro-trump-lawyer-lin-wood-calls-for-pence-to-be-executed-posts-get-removed-from-parler/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/pro-trump-lawyer-lin-wood-call... I don't know if Mike Pence uses Parler, but if pro-Trump lawyer and right wing influencer Lin Wood is calling for his execution, don't you think that represents something of a risk to Pence whether or not he reads it?

krastanov 6y ago

I do not really see how this is new or a big deal. These stores have always been walled gardens and I have never perceived them as anything resembling a public square. Moreover, the website is accessible and nothing stops people from using it. Apps are not the internet (thankfully). Pretending that the app store is the internet just gives these companies more power.