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This. Double standards all the way.

by imperio59 6y ago

selimthegrim 6y ago
Care to elaborate? Are they violating sanctions?
- 2muchcoffeeman 6y ago
  I’m not sure of any other time Twitter did the banning of it’s own volition. But one might reasonably argue that people who don’t follow certain ideologies get reported and suspended more often.
akhosravian 6y ago
Is there a tweet from his account that violates twitters ToS?
- Meekro 6y ago
  https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263551872872386562 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263551872872386562 "The only remedy until the removal of the Zionist regime is firm, armed resistance." https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263181288338587649 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263181288338587649 "We will support and assist any nation or any group anywhere who opposes and fights the Zionist regime." Now compare that to the Trump tweets that prompted his suspension, according to the Twitter statement: "The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!" "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th." To claim that the second set of Tweets incites violence more than the first is absurd. Yes, context matters, but it also matters for the Ayatollah tweets. When the leader of Iran advocates "armed resistance" to the state of Israel, we know exactly what that means.
  - richrichardsson 6y ago
    Isn't it just bluster on the part of the Ayatollah? Do you think it at all likely to inspire action? Trump on the other hand has clearly demonstrated his ability to incite action.
    - notmenope 6y ago
      As far as I am aware, the plan to march on the Capitol preceded anything that Trump said.
  - Udik 6y ago
    How are Khamenei's tweets any different from those of US politicians against Iran or other "enemy" nations? Should we apply the same standard to US politicians who have tweeted threats to Iran or supported actions aimed to the collapse of Iranian regime?
    - zozbot234 6y ago
      Come on, Twitter has been banning plenty of users for posting blatantly anti-Semitic dog-whistles like "the Zionist regime". It's quite clear that Khamenei is getting preferential treatment.
      - Udik 6y ago
        "Zionist regime" is not an anti-semitic "dogwhistle" (trendy term used to assign words whatever meaning you like, disregarding the literal one). It's a derogatory appellative for a country. Zionism is a political ideology and Israel is a country engaged in blatant apartheid and ethnic cleansing.
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      - Kim_Bruning 6y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism So in this case he might be technically correct in identifying the exact people he opposes... Possibly. Iran is a bit weird, they actually have a seat of parliament reserved for a Jewish representative. See here for details of the current holder of this seat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Motamed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Motamed
- Drunk_Engineer 6y ago
  In this tweet he says "death to American politicians": https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1093791374204420097 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1093791374204420097
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  - taurath 6y ago
    He can say march on the Capitol all he wants. If a mob shows up then you can bet your ass he’ll be off the platform.
  - uoaei 6y ago
    It's not so much about the words as the material consequences of those words.
    - curryst 6y ago
      That's a bad line to draw. "We're helpless to do anything until someone dies" isn't likely to draw a lot of sympathy.
      - jmull 6y ago
        That seems like a great place to draw the line to me.
      - bbeesley 6y ago
        Isn’t that the way laws work? You can’t prosecute someone until they’ve committed a crime. The issue here is whether the “crime” is tweeting stuff that starts an insurrection, or tweeting stuff that could be interpreted as potentially starting an insurrection. Me telling someone to go fuck themselves probably isn’t a problem, but me telling someone with learning difficulties to go fuck themselves and them feeling compelled to do it and hurting themselves probably is a problem.
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Fjolsvith 6y ago
Recall last year when the rioting was going on and Kaepernick was calling for more violence on Twitter? @Jack gave him $3m.

This. Double standards all the way.

selimthegrim 6y ago

Care to elaborate? Are they violating sanctions?

2muchcoffeeman 6y ago
I’m not sure of any other time Twitter did the banning of it’s own volition. But one might reasonably argue that people who don’t follow certain ideologies get reported and suspended more often.

akhosravian 6y ago

Is there a tweet from his account that violates twitters ToS?

Meekro 6y ago
https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263551872872386562 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263551872872386562 "The only remedy until the removal of the Zionist regime is firm, armed resistance." https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263181288338587649 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1263181288338587649 "We will support and assist any nation or any group anywhere who opposes and fights the Zionist regime." Now compare that to the Trump tweets that prompted his suspension, according to the Twitter statement: "The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!" "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th." To claim that the second set of Tweets incites violence more than the first is absurd. Yes, context matters, but it also matters for the Ayatollah tweets. When the leader of Iran advocates "armed resistance" to the state of Israel, we know exactly what that means.
- richrichardsson 6y ago
  Isn't it just bluster on the part of the Ayatollah? Do you think it at all likely to inspire action? Trump on the other hand has clearly demonstrated his ability to incite action.
  - notmenope 6y ago
    As far as I am aware, the plan to march on the Capitol preceded anything that Trump said.
- Udik 6y ago
  How are Khamenei's tweets any different from those of US politicians against Iran or other "enemy" nations? Should we apply the same standard to US politicians who have tweeted threats to Iran or supported actions aimed to the collapse of Iranian regime?
  - zozbot234 6y ago
    Come on, Twitter has been banning plenty of users for posting blatantly anti-Semitic dog-whistles like "the Zionist regime". It's quite clear that Khamenei is getting preferential treatment.
    - Udik 6y ago
      "Zionist regime" is not an anti-semitic "dogwhistle" (trendy term used to assign words whatever meaning you like, disregarding the literal one). It's a derogatory appellative for a country. Zionism is a political ideology and Israel is a country engaged in blatant apartheid and ethnic cleansing.
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    - Kim_Bruning 6y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism So in this case he might be technically correct in identifying the exact people he opposes... Possibly. Iran is a bit weird, they actually have a seat of parliament reserved for a Jewish representative. See here for details of the current holder of this seat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Motamed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Motamed
Drunk_Engineer 6y ago
In this tweet he says "death to American politicians": https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1093791374204420097 https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1093791374204420097
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- taurath 6y ago
  He can say march on the Capitol all he wants. If a mob shows up then you can bet your ass he’ll be off the platform.
- uoaei 6y ago
  It's not so much about the words as the material consequences of those words.
  - curryst 6y ago
    That's a bad line to draw. "We're helpless to do anything until someone dies" isn't likely to draw a lot of sympathy.
    - jmull 6y ago
      That seems like a great place to draw the line to me.
    - bbeesley 6y ago
      Isn’t that the way laws work? You can’t prosecute someone until they’ve committed a crime. The issue here is whether the “crime” is tweeting stuff that starts an insurrection, or tweeting stuff that could be interpreted as potentially starting an insurrection. Me telling someone to go fuck themselves probably isn’t a problem, but me telling someone with learning difficulties to go fuck themselves and them feeling compelled to do it and hurting themselves probably is a problem.
      - 6y ago

Fjolsvith 6y ago

Recall last year when the rioting was going on and Kaepernick was calling for more violence on Twitter? @Jack gave him $3m.