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> despite being still stuck on lithography somewhere between 4 and 5 times less dense That seems a bit high, I know it's 14nm vs 5nm but they're not real numbe
by jonplackett 6y ago
> despite being still stuck on lithography somewhere between 4 and 5 times less dense
That seems a bit high, I know it's 14nm vs 5nm but they're not real numbers anymore, and even that would only be 3X.
Don't get me wrong though, Intel are still screwed. Even if they get 5nm in 5 years, where will TSMC be then?
- mhh__ 6y agoYou can (and should, I'm slightly surprised it's so uncommon "even on HN") look up the actual transistor density on Wikipedia - Intel are still stuck on 37.5 MTr/mm^2, TSMC cutting edge is much more than that and Intel 10nm is about 100 MTr/mm^2. So the actual number is between 3 and 5 depending on if you compare with AMD on Apple. You have to realize that all the fabs (and Intel) have multiple nodes on the go at any given time, the progression isn't completely serial - they've basically failed this generation but that doesn't mean that they won't be back up there if they nail the next one.
- wmf 6y agoIntel's 7 nm process has also essentially failed; it's years behind schedule.
- jonplackett 6y agoI stand corrected! For reference, TSMC's 5nm is 173. I almost feel bad for Intel. Almost.