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This isn’t about closeness at all. It’s about ~half the country actually believing that the election was rigged. That doesn’t have precedent as far as I know.

sixothree 6y ago
That's too bad. They're wrong. And using violence is not the answer.
AnimalMuppet 6y ago
To be fair, the other half of the country believed that the previous election was thrown by Russian interference. And to be really fair, half of the country believed neither of those things. There are plenty of people who voted for Trump who believe that he lost fair and square, and ditto Hillary voters in the previous election.
- mkr-hn 6y ago
  It's been interesting to watch Trump signs vanish a few at a time with each post-election milestone. Most people seem to accept the results even if their lines are different.
throwaway2245 6y ago
> It’s about ~half the country actually believing that the election was rigged. I think it's more accurate to say that a percentage of people believe they will benefit by repeating claims that the election was rigged. It's difficult to truly believe that an election was rigged, by the other side, when your side was ultimately responsible for its administration.
Rapzid 6y ago
Half the country doesn't believe that. Source?
- physicles 6y ago
  My bad, should’ve done the research. In a mid December CBS news poll, “82% of Trump voters say they do not consider Mr. Biden[‘s win] legitimate.” The vast majority of trump voters isn’t the same thing as half the country. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-most-feel-election-is-settled-but-trump-voters-disagree/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-most-feel-electio...
  - Rapzid 6y ago
    I think it's telling though that the one question that's very narrowly scoped in interpretation(in that first batch about who won etc), the question about what should happen if the electoral college votes for Joe Biden, has 51% of Trump voters saying that Trump should concede. Seems like most voters were still holding out while there was some hope of a viable legal route to contest the election. But a majority of Trump voters, at the time of the poll anyway, made a clean break from contesting the election after the electoral college vote.

sixothree 6y ago

That's too bad. They're wrong. And using violence is not the answer.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago

To be fair, the other half of the country believed that the previous election was thrown by Russian interference. And to be really fair, half of the country believed neither of those things. There are plenty of people who voted for Trump who believe that he lost fair and square, and ditto Hillary voters in the previous election.

mkr-hn 6y ago
It's been interesting to watch Trump signs vanish a few at a time with each post-election milestone. Most people seem to accept the results even if their lines are different.

throwaway2245 6y ago

> It’s about ~half the country actually believing that the election was rigged. I think it's more accurate to say that a percentage of people believe they will benefit by repeating claims that the election was rigged. It's difficult to truly believe that an election was rigged, by the other side, when your side was ultimately responsible for its administration.

Rapzid 6y ago

Half the country doesn't believe that. Source?

physicles 6y ago
My bad, should’ve done the research. In a mid December CBS news poll, “82% of Trump voters say they do not consider Mr. Biden[‘s win] legitimate.” The vast majority of trump voters isn’t the same thing as half the country. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-most-feel-election-is-settled-but-trump-voters-disagree/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-poll-most-feel-electio...
- Rapzid 6y ago
  I think it's telling though that the one question that's very narrowly scoped in interpretation(in that first batch about who won etc), the question about what should happen if the electoral college votes for Joe Biden, has 51% of Trump voters saying that Trump should concede. Seems like most voters were still holding out while there was some hope of a viable legal route to contest the election. But a majority of Trump voters, at the time of the poll anyway, made a clean break from contesting the election after the electoral college vote.