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If Gutenberg could've been pressured in to restricting what combinations of words were allowed in his press, the enlightenment ultimately may never have happene
by krona 6y ago
If Gutenberg could've been pressured in to restricting what combinations of words were allowed in his press, the enlightenment ultimately may never have happened. Simple as that.
The problem is today's printing presses are not owned by the people who use them, and can be confiscated without warning or recourse.
The consequence will be the end of liberal society, but society will demand it.
- zapnuk 6y agoGutenberg is one example, Hitler another one. It like people already forgot that followers of the president committed an domestic terror attack right after attending his rally.
- busterarm 6y agoAccording to some reporters who were there, people were already in the Capitol Building _during_ the rally and that there was a steady flood of people heading there before the rally finished.
- zapnuk 6y agoThe capitol was clearly barred+fenced off. They FORCED their way in. All of it was televised. Why even try resort to fringe observations by "some reporters".
- tylersmith 6y agoThere is plenty of video of them being let in. They took down the barricades and just started letting people in. This camera person for a news outlet just walked right in with 0 force. https://twitter.com/insidernews/status/1347646782659031043 https://twitter.com/insidernews/status/1347646782659031043
- zapnuk 6y agoBecause at that point they are heavily outnumbered that point they couldn't do much besides securing the MVPs (Senators, personal etc.). Here is the video where the terrorists crushed an officer to death: https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1347749675777011714 https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1347749675777011714 The doors were definitely not open at the beginning, which everyone who watched it live clearly saw. What he did see is a violent mob who forced their way into the building and a police which was outnumbered and not prepared.
- busterarm 6y ago> The capitol was clearly barred+fenced off. They FORCED their way in. Neither of these facts are in dispute by anything that I said. All I was saying was that it did not start after the rally, but during.
- zapnuk 6y agoThen whats the point of you comment if not to sugarcoat the fact that Trump's followers committed an act of terror. Doesn't matter that some may have been there earlier. The vast majority went there after the rally. And of them a significant portion conducted or threatened violent actions against the capitol, police, politicians, and the free press.
- blisterpeanuts 6y agoReally? How many were killed by the terrorists?
- zapnuk 6y agoIt appears that (at least) one person died by the hands of them. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/capitol-police-officer-killed/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/capitol-police-o... Also, a terror attack doesn't need to kill people.
- pnw_hazor 6y agoThis will lead to more violent unrest -- it will be seen as more "proof" that Big Tech, Big Media, and Big Gov are aligned against them. Crazies on /pol/ and elsewhere use the term acceleration to celebrate actions by either side that move society closer to violence. This move by twitter will be welcomed by them.
- anigbrowl 6y agoTrue, but frankly I'm tired of appeasing these people and listening to their constant threats of extortion. If they decide to step across the threshold then we can stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and deal with it as a straight conflict of interest.
- sthnblllII 6y agoIf trespassing is domestic terrorism, we might as well just tear up the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
- newguy1234 6y agoThe death of freedom of speech is ushered in with thunderous applause.
- casefields 6y agoIt's true. Nazis didn't come to power with boos and jeers. The baddies always come to power with thunderous applause and it's pretty much all that's been going on today over deplatforming one side of the political spectrum.
- w0de0 6y agoQAnon, Neonazis, Donnie and his fellow grifters, &tc are not a “side of the political spectrum.” God help us if they are. There are still plenty of conservatives around. If Twitter isn’t enough for you, you’ll find them also on the nation’s most popular broadcast channel, Fox. And they can make their own damn platform. It’s a free country, and that includes the freedom of private business to tell them to go away.
- sdwa 6y agoUmmm maybe I'm mistaken but censorship was widespread throughout Europe during the enlightenment and yet the enlightenment still happened. The paranoid American style where anything but free speech in the most absolute and extreme terms is guaranteed to result in tyranny and the destruction of civilisation itself isn't really born out by any of the facts.