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We don’t have to imagine. #BLM incited many riots which killed many people, what action did Twitter take there?

by bananabiscuit 6y ago

mrkurt 6y ago
Suspended: https://twitter.com/blm https://twitter.com/blm
- FDSGSG 6y ago
  https://web.archive.org/web/20130825024428/https://twitter.com/blm https://web.archive.org/web/20130825024428/https://twitter.c... https://web.archive.org/web/20170718112930/https://twitter.com/BLM https://web.archive.org/web/20170718112930/https://twitter.c... ?
  - jiojfdsal3 6y ago
    Strangely enough, Twitter's former CEO Dick Costolo said this in October: "Me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution. I'll happily provide video commentary." @dickc was never suspended. He still has his account.
    - kennywinker 6y ago
      That really doesn’t feel like inciting or calling for riots or violence to me. Maybe if @dickc had a large and heavily armed following there’d be more subtext to read between the lines... (i.e. “and we should start this riot now”)
      - spiritplumber 6y ago
        I thought it was going to be the Sirius Cybernetic Corporation.
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
- leereeves 6y ago
  That's not BLM's account. This is: https://twitter.com/Blklivesmatter https://twitter.com/Blklivesmatter For proof that's official, see https://blacklivesmatter.com/statement-from-black-lives-matter-global-network-on-fraudulent-social-media-accounts/ https://blacklivesmatter.com/statement-from-black-lives-matt... It's not suspended.
  - bra-ket 6y ago
    CNN is trying to force Fox News off air. Twitter deletes people who have opinions different than theirs. Apple is trying to delete a free speech platform. Google already did. Biden and Democrats in charge are cheering it on. Fascism is here and it’s the 'liberal' left.
    - cthalupa 6y ago
      Copy and pasting this in multiple threads doesn't make it any more true.
      - bra-ket 6y ago
        neither does repeating leftist propaganda which demonizes Trump and his supporters. But I see it on the news 24/7, and on this site repeated every day, in every political thread, by thousands of brainwashed people regurgitating lies they've been force-fed for years.
        cthalupa 6y ago
        Trump has done quite enough to demonize himself while inciting insurrection and calling for violence. Not that's anything new - Trump has long called for his supporters to be violent towards those he disagrees with, even going so far as to offer to pay their legal fees.
        scrollaway 6y ago
        At some point you might be willing to consider you're the indoctrinated/brainwashed one. You said it yourself, you see everything around you repeat what you believe is false 24/7. Reality is hard. It's easier out here in europe, we've been lucky enough not to suffer too much from the awful american media diet. We've mostly seen this happen to you all from the outside. There's a lot of propaganda in your country. I sympathize with you, truly; it's difficult to tell what's real and what isn't when you've been gaslit for years. It's especially more difficult when you think that accepting reality means giving up your ideas and opinions on eg. personal freedom (it doesn't). But getting out of there is going to be your fight. Saw this thread this morning; if there's hope for that guy, maybe there's hope for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/kt9ues/update_my_husband_is_having_a_mental_breakdown/ https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/kt9ues/update_my_husb...
sixothree 6y ago
I'm not sure this even deserves a follow up question. But go ahead and show some specifics.
- bananabiscuit 6y ago
  Really? You don’t believe the most violent riots we have seen in decades caused some deaths? Ok here’s some specifics: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2020/06/20/davenport-man-charged-murder-italia-marie-kelly/3231057001/ https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-court... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airman-charged-killing-federal-officer-during-george-floyd-protests-california-n1231187 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airman-charged-killing-... https://www.startribune.com/officials-19-people-shot-in-minneapolis-since-unrest-over-george-floyd-killing/570932812/ https://www.startribune.com/officials-19-people-shot-in-minn...
  - sixothree 6y ago
    That doesn't exactly support the claim. I don't understand your point here? Do you even remember the point being made?
  - oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
    Those are — I think, exclusively — examples of either unrelated or anti-blm perpetrators.
tenebrisalietum 6y ago
It is accurate to say BLM incited riots? I'll counter with this: BLM organized protests which were peaceful and then bad actors incited riots. What happened on the Capitol was not peaceful from the outset--people came up, climbed the wall, broke through the entryway, took a podium, etc.--they started it.
- vonseel 6y ago
  Couldn’t you just as accurately say they organized peacefully at the Capitol and THEN made it non-peaceful by doing those things?
  - deeviant 6y ago
    No.
    - lightgreen 6y ago
      Care to explain?
      - deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
      - deeviant 6y ago
        Not really. It's so obvious that the only person that would likely disagree with me is person that will likely disagree with reality, but here I go anyways. Trump called for insurrection. He didn't call for a protest. So did Trump Jr. So Did Giuliani. It's a matter of public record. Also the people, and please respect that I single out this comment as completely tangential to the original point, that try to make the "Sure Trump supporters rioted, but BLM!" argument never seem to take the following into account: BLM is fighting against a system that arbitrarily tortures and executes them, often with impunity. While The Trump supporters are literally fighting to end American democracy.
        6y ago
igetspam 6y ago
Source? Politifact rates that False.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
dang 6y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25692481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25692481.

We don’t have to imagine. #BLM incited many riots which killed many people, what action did Twitter take there?

mrkurt 6y ago

Suspended: https://twitter.com/blm https://twitter.com/blm

FDSGSG 6y ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20130825024428/https://twitter.com/blm https://web.archive.org/web/20130825024428/https://twitter.c... https://web.archive.org/web/20170718112930/https://twitter.com/BLM https://web.archive.org/web/20170718112930/https://twitter.c... ?
- jiojfdsal3 6y ago
  Strangely enough, Twitter's former CEO Dick Costolo said this in October: "Me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution. I'll happily provide video commentary." @dickc was never suspended. He still has his account.
  - kennywinker 6y ago
    That really doesn’t feel like inciting or calling for riots or violence to me. Maybe if @dickc had a large and heavily armed following there’d be more subtext to read between the lines... (i.e. “and we should start this riot now”)
    - spiritplumber 6y ago
      I thought it was going to be the Sirius Cybernetic Corporation.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
leereeves 6y ago
That's not BLM's account. This is: https://twitter.com/Blklivesmatter https://twitter.com/Blklivesmatter For proof that's official, see https://blacklivesmatter.com/statement-from-black-lives-matter-global-network-on-fraudulent-social-media-accounts/ https://blacklivesmatter.com/statement-from-black-lives-matt... It's not suspended.
- bra-ket 6y ago
  CNN is trying to force Fox News off air. Twitter deletes people who have opinions different than theirs. Apple is trying to delete a free speech platform. Google already did. Biden and Democrats in charge are cheering it on. Fascism is here and it’s the 'liberal' left.
  - cthalupa 6y ago
    Copy and pasting this in multiple threads doesn't make it any more true.
    - bra-ket 6y ago
      neither does repeating leftist propaganda which demonizes Trump and his supporters. But I see it on the news 24/7, and on this site repeated every day, in every political thread, by thousands of brainwashed people regurgitating lies they've been force-fed for years.
      - cthalupa 6y ago
        Trump has done quite enough to demonize himself while inciting insurrection and calling for violence. Not that's anything new - Trump has long called for his supporters to be violent towards those he disagrees with, even going so far as to offer to pay their legal fees.
      - scrollaway 6y ago
        At some point you might be willing to consider you're the indoctrinated/brainwashed one. You said it yourself, you see everything around you repeat what you believe is false 24/7. Reality is hard. It's easier out here in europe, we've been lucky enough not to suffer too much from the awful american media diet. We've mostly seen this happen to you all from the outside. There's a lot of propaganda in your country. I sympathize with you, truly; it's difficult to tell what's real and what isn't when you've been gaslit for years. It's especially more difficult when you think that accepting reality means giving up your ideas and opinions on eg. personal freedom (it doesn't). But getting out of there is going to be your fight. Saw this thread this morning; if there's hope for that guy, maybe there's hope for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/kt9ues/update_my_husband_is_having_a_mental_breakdown/ https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/kt9ues/update_my_husb...

sixothree 6y ago

I'm not sure this even deserves a follow up question. But go ahead and show some specifics.

bananabiscuit 6y ago
Really? You don’t believe the most violent riots we have seen in decades caused some deaths? Ok here’s some specifics: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2020/06/20/davenport-man-charged-murder-italia-marie-kelly/3231057001/ https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-court... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airman-charged-killing-federal-officer-during-george-floyd-protests-california-n1231187 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airman-charged-killing-... https://www.startribune.com/officials-19-people-shot-in-minneapolis-since-unrest-over-george-floyd-killing/570932812/ https://www.startribune.com/officials-19-people-shot-in-minn...
- sixothree 6y ago
  That doesn't exactly support the claim. I don't understand your point here? Do you even remember the point being made?
- oneeyedpigeon 6y ago
  Those are — I think, exclusively — examples of either unrelated or anti-blm perpetrators.

tenebrisalietum 6y ago

It is accurate to say BLM incited riots? I'll counter with this: BLM organized protests which were peaceful and then bad actors incited riots. What happened on the Capitol was not peaceful from the outset--people came up, climbed the wall, broke through the entryway, took a podium, etc.--they started it.

vonseel 6y ago
Couldn’t you just as accurately say they organized peacefully at the Capitol and THEN made it non-peaceful by doing those things?
- deeviant 6y ago
  No.
  - lightgreen 6y ago
    Care to explain?
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
    - deeviant 6y ago
      Not really. It's so obvious that the only person that would likely disagree with me is person that will likely disagree with reality, but here I go anyways. Trump called for insurrection. He didn't call for a protest. So did Trump Jr. So Did Giuliani. It's a matter of public record. Also the people, and please respect that I single out this comment as completely tangential to the original point, that try to make the "Sure Trump supporters rioted, but BLM!" argument never seem to take the following into account: BLM is fighting against a system that arbitrarily tortures and executes them, often with impunity. While The Trump supporters are literally fighting to end American democracy.
      - 6y ago

igetspam 6y ago

Source? Politifact rates that False.

deleted 6y ago
[deleted]

dang 6y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25692481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25692481.