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I am loving people who don't understand that they are literally supporting billionaires while claiming to be anti-corporate resistance. Definition of Liberal u
by busymom0 6y ago
I am loving people who don't understand that they are literally supporting billionaires while claiming to be anti-corporate resistance.
Definition of Liberal used to be: "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."
I am still a liberal. But I am not the current liberal.
- blisterpeanuts 6y ago2020 (and probably 2018) is when the Democrat Party became the party of billionaires and digerati, while the Republican party represented the working class, manufacturers, farmers, etc. Most rank-and-file private unions (plus police and fire) polled strongly for Trump and Republicans. It's almost a 180 turnaround from the days when the Democrats represented the "common working man" and the Republicans were the party of rich CEO's and business owners.
- rtx 6y ago2024 is when you will see the effects of this realignment.
- blisterpeanuts 6y agomaybe 2022. The midterm elections are going to be very interesting.
- lumpenprole 6y agoI'm not sure that the Republican Party can maintain the current rube/scumbag coalition that long without Trump.
- sixothree 6y agoThe right has promised 4 years of terror. I'm over it already.
- throw_m239339 6y agoThe democrats, at least since the 70's have always represented urban populations and the "new money" AKA wall St and now IT, while the republicans pandered to the "old money" (oil,...) and more rural, or traditional areas. Both parties work for different kind of billionaires. For instance, most of the problems that led to the 2008 housing crisis were the direct consequence of Bill Clinton's policies when it comes to deregulating Wall St, so it was a bit funny to hear all these democrats trying to look tough on bankers when they were directly responsible for the situation as legislators. But that's the game, that's politics.
- nineplay 6y ago> Definition of Liberal used to be: "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. What an unusual POV civil rights movement: not liberal Vietnam war protesters: not liberal Where did you find these liberals? The don't seem to have much in common with the liberals I know.
- svaha1728 6y agoI live in the Midwest. Attacking black people on the street, kidnapping elected officials, these are not ‘new’ ideas I’m open to. Yet this is happening, and escalating... and most certainly Trump is the tip of the spear for that movement in this part of the world. Let’s spend some time reading books, maybe we can go back to solving illusive pedophile rings online when we are better educated as a species.
- busymom0 6y agoI am a brown immigrant myself and I don't need you to save me. I have NEVER EVER seen Trump attacking black people nor asked to kidnap officials. You are living in an echo chamber built of lies. And you putting all conservatives in the "solving illusive pedophile rings online" clearly shows you are living in an echo chamber.
- 4ggr0 6y agoSeems like a classic case of anecdotes vs. anecdotes, shrug You both have your points, both are probably right :)
- um_ya 6y agoThose liberals are now considered conservatives/libertarians. I want no part of the current form of "liberalism", if it means censoring other people like these companies have consistently done. Free speech is a principle to me, not just some "law".
- jnordonez 6y agoHow do you feel about all the whataboutism coming from the people who held a violent insurrection on our nations Capitol?
- throw_m239339 6y agoI mean, liberal =/= progressives =/= democratic party. Only in USA the word liberal has this very strange meaning one is forced to add "classical" to clarify its definition.
- nec4b 6y agoBecause they are not liberals like you, they are leftists.
- sdwa 6y ago>I am loving people who don't understand that they are literally supporting billionaires while claiming to be anti-corporate resistance. The billionaire in question is Trump, isn't it? >Definition of Liberal used to be: "Willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas. Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise." Well this just comes back to the paradox of tolerance. I consider myself a liberal (in the British or non-American sense) and in my opinion fascism should not be tolerated.
- nec4b 6y agoOnly fascism or any other collectivist ideology?
- sdwa 6y agoSure, but the threat of fascism in any given Western nation that I know of is far greater than the threat of communism, which is rather dead.
- busterarm 6y ago> than the threat of communism, which is rather dead. Huh? The largest nation on the planet is literally a Communist nation and has its eyes set on being the global seat of power while simulatenously bribing half the world to look the other way. The internment camps should be a clue.
- sdwa 6y agoWell China isn't really communist any more, it sort of began to abandon that with Deng Xiaoping, but regardless, my point is there's truly minimal risk of communists coming to power in any Western country that I know of. I perceive the thread of fascists gaining power in the West as far greater. I should have been clearer, my mistake.
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