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I couldn't agree more. I vastly prefer reading either analyses of last month's news–or forecasts of next month's–much more than I do what we call coverage of de

I couldn't agree more. I vastly prefer reading either analyses of last month's news–or forecasts of next month's–much more than I do what we call coverage of developing events. That said, with due respect I would note that I was responding to your apparently 'immediately arriving at a conclusion before the dust had settled' by calling her assessment a parroted narrative, likely before having seen that video. We can all do better. Hence my framing it in a very specific way to address that portion of your comment.

kodah 6y ago
In the first paragraph I was responding to the poster, the second paragraph is really just directed at political and political culture people in general. It was meant to be a metaphorical 'you'. I'll try to find better ways to phrase it so my point isn't lost in the future. That said, I've seen that video. While it's significant it doesn't mean much until federal authorities investigate it. What various people on here and abroad used it to do was to craft narratives favorable to their own stances.
- handedness 6y ago
  Yeah, I have no idea what the narrative on that event will be, or what it should be, or whether those two will be the same. Facts will continue to come out and be amalgamated into various narratives to suit the various factions. I guess what I really mean to say is that someone seeing that video and thinking, "some of those people were let inside by the Capitol Police" is not the most reckless interpretation of a video clip I've seen in the last twelve months, much less in my lifetime. Now, "I saw that video and therefore it was staged by [Trump/Pelosi/etc.]," is where it becomes reckless and unjustifiable parroting of trending narratives. Let's wait for the investigation, and hope (however naively) that it is thorough and impartial, and that the public receives the full report. Edited to add: I have never seen an American public so ready to be deceived and weaponized against each other as what we've seen with this last, long cycle of increasing tension (which appears to be far from over). And it's anyone's guess as to who will weaponize that more destructively. So I think your ultimate point is both timely and important. Thank you for making it.
  - kodah 6y ago
    I agree and I see your point. > Edited to add: I have never seen an American public so ready to be deceived and weaponized against each other as what we've seen with this last, long cycle of increasing tension (which appears to be far from over). And it's anyone's guess as to who will weaponize that more destructively. Same. These times are very worrisome. I don't really know what to do anymore. > So I think your ultimate point is both timely and important. Thank you for making it. Same to you. I appreciate that there's still a place on the internet I can go where I can have discourse with people and not be shouted out of a room. I refuse to believe this is just the status quo going forward and meeting like-minded folks gives me hope.
    - handedness 6y ago
      Thank you. On the one hand, I'd like to think the world is still mostly full of reasonable people. On the other hand, I'm also (lamentably) aware of how few griefers it takes to turn a great multiplayer environment into something nearly worthless for that large majority of reasonable people.

kodah 6y ago

In the first paragraph I was responding to the poster, the second paragraph is really just directed at political and political culture people in general. It was meant to be a metaphorical 'you'. I'll try to find better ways to phrase it so my point isn't lost in the future. That said, I've seen that video. While it's significant it doesn't mean much until federal authorities investigate it. What various people on here and abroad used it to do was to craft narratives favorable to their own stances.

handedness 6y ago
Yeah, I have no idea what the narrative on that event will be, or what it should be, or whether those two will be the same. Facts will continue to come out and be amalgamated into various narratives to suit the various factions. I guess what I really mean to say is that someone seeing that video and thinking, "some of those people were let inside by the Capitol Police" is not the most reckless interpretation of a video clip I've seen in the last twelve months, much less in my lifetime. Now, "I saw that video and therefore it was staged by [Trump/Pelosi/etc.]," is where it becomes reckless and unjustifiable parroting of trending narratives. Let's wait for the investigation, and hope (however naively) that it is thorough and impartial, and that the public receives the full report. Edited to add: I have never seen an American public so ready to be deceived and weaponized against each other as what we've seen with this last, long cycle of increasing tension (which appears to be far from over). And it's anyone's guess as to who will weaponize that more destructively. So I think your ultimate point is both timely and important. Thank you for making it.
- kodah 6y ago
  I agree and I see your point. > Edited to add: I have never seen an American public so ready to be deceived and weaponized against each other as what we've seen with this last, long cycle of increasing tension (which appears to be far from over). And it's anyone's guess as to who will weaponize that more destructively. Same. These times are very worrisome. I don't really know what to do anymore. > So I think your ultimate point is both timely and important. Thank you for making it. Same to you. I appreciate that there's still a place on the internet I can go where I can have discourse with people and not be shouted out of a room. I refuse to believe this is just the status quo going forward and meeting like-minded folks gives me hope.
  - handedness 6y ago
    Thank you. On the one hand, I'd like to think the world is still mostly full of reasonable people. On the other hand, I'm also (lamentably) aware of how few griefers it takes to turn a great multiplayer environment into something nearly worthless for that large majority of reasonable people.