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I worked on a barely do-not-distribute. Someone's spouse took a project member's laptop as hostage for alimony. Within 45 minutes of discovery and a phone call
by grogenaut 6y ago
I worked on a barely do-not-distribute. Someone's spouse took a project member's laptop as hostage for alimony. Within 45 minutes of discovery and a phone call to the army equivalent of the FBI, agents were at the spouse's work and home searching for the laptop.
Lucky for the spouse they thought it was the personal laptop (it was not marked) so they weren't prosecuted.
This laptop could be much worse, or just fine.
- ptd 6y agoWhat is a “barely do-not-distribute?”
- YarickR2 6y agosecurity policy for documents
- ucha 6y agoIt's usually the second lowest security level, just above "Public" and below "Secret".
- throwaway201103 6y agoNever heard it called that. What I have heard is something along the lines of "confidential but unclassified" which seems more descriptive to me.
- notretarded 6y agoMetaphorically speaking. I.e. not quite DnD, but likely would want to be contained
- ucha 6y agoThose were the terms we used at an investment bank but I imagine different institutions use different classifications.
- hchz 6y agoThis would never be used by USG. Confidential -> Classified The classification scheme is broadly cut up into Confidential, Secret, Top Secret, and Codeword. There are many modifiers to that such as Five-Eyes, Cosmic (NATO), and Restricted-Data (Nuclear Weapon Design). There are a menagerie of controls that don't rise to classification, like NOFORN, Law Enforcement Sensitive, For official use only, etc.
- bradknowles 6y agoCode word compartments cut horizontally across the Confidential/Secret/Top Secret hierarchy. I’ve seen stuff that was classified Confidential, but also in a code word protected compartment. I had a TS/SCI/SI/CT/NATO/ATOMAL clearance when I worked for the Defense Information Systems Agency in the Pentagon. Many times over the past 25+ years I have had to correct people who think the compartmented stuff is classified at a level “above Top Secret”, when in fact the compartments just cut horizontally across the hierarchy. Below Confidential exist other “unclassified” states, like “For Official Use Only” and “No Foreign” (a.k.a., NOFORN). Then, regardless of the classification, you should also have to prove “Need to Know”.
- hchz 6y agoI don't dispute that, I was trying to present a somewhat simplified view of this in a succinct comment. To me, the most interesting aspects of classification were that the title, content, and classification level itself don't necessarily share levels.
- 5555624 6y agoCUI -- Controlled, Unclassified Information (formerly FOUO - For Official Use Only) As others have pointed out, Confidential is classified, the lowest classification level.
- rootusrootus 6y agoWe used to just call that "confidential".
- euler_angles 6y agoWe still do, but it's rarely used in my experience.
- VistaBrokeMyPC 6y agoThird lowest; NOFORN is above public
- mywittyname 6y agoDo you all say NOFORN the way I think you say NOFORN? (No forn)
- lambda_obrien 6y ago"No foreign nationals" And yes, "no-forn"
- hchz 6y agoNOFORN is not a level but an orthogonal restriction. Information could be Secret and NOFORN or Secret and Five-Eyes, for instance.
- grogenaut 6y agoPut the quotes around DND... It was mostly unimportant mostly already public do not distribute data but you can't be sure what was actually on the laptop. NOFORN would be a good exact version. This was also years ago, and for obvious reasons I don't want to be more exact.
- garfieldnate 6y agoReminds me of this old "Professor Pwnage" video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4gVkprDej0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4gVkprDej0
- lqet 6y agoDo you have any information on how this ended?
- alt219 6y agoThe professor was bluffing [0]. Apparently it was deemed a random theft [1]. [0]: https://www.engadget.com/2005-04-25-laptop-thief-not-scared-by-berkeley-profs-made-up-threats.html https://www.engadget.com/2005-04-25-laptop-thief-not-scared-... [1]: https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/09/15_laptop.shtml https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/09/15_lapt...