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Not sure about two people going for a walk out of town though, is that really a big issue? It’s not breaking any of the legislation and they were fined as what

Not sure about two people going for a walk out of town though, is that really a big issue? It’s not breaking any of the legislation and they were fined as what they did “wasn’t in the spirit of the lockdown”... what?!

LatteLazy 6y ago
The legislation says it's up to the police if your action is reasonable. Police decided they could have walked closer to home. If they want, they can go to court and try and convince the magistrate/jury the police were wrong. I wish them luck (honestly). The issue we have is we haven't enforced the very important stuff. So now we're fucked. So now we have to enforce the lot, even if this particular event (2 people arriving separately etc) seems small. As far as I'm concerned, the more people see enforcement, the more lives will be saved. So it's a good thing whether either of these women actually transmitted and actual covid etc...
- HappyDreamer 6y ago
  If they enforce the legislation far away in the forests or countryside, whilst ignore people walking in crowds in London on Christmas Eve [1], then I'm thinking this will lower the trust in the police and make people inclined to ignore the rules. Meaning, I think what the police did here, damages the trust in the legal system and covid response, slightly changing things for the worse. [1] London Christmas Lights Walk 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7wJZln6Kw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7wJZln6Kw
  - LatteLazy 6y ago
    I don't think compliance can get much lower tbh. I hope I'm right about that but it's just my jaded opinion. I completely agree we have a massive issue that the government created themselves: they've encouraged non-compliance in every imaginable way. It's criminally poor. Now they're stuck: they need to turn it around and do so quickly. So they'll arrest these women having allowed crowds to fill tube trains. The only problem is they're doing the right thing. We need compliance and we need it now. It's not fair to these women. After this is over Bojo should be arrested. But right now, its necessary. Salus populi suprema lex esto (The public safety is the highest law)
    - HappyDreamer 6y ago
      > they've encouraged non-compliance in every imaginable way > Now they're stuck: they need to turn it around and do so quickly Situation about the same here where I live (also in Europe). Thanks for having written a bit more about how you're thinking.

LatteLazy 6y ago

The legislation says it's up to the police if your action is reasonable. Police decided they could have walked closer to home. If they want, they can go to court and try and convince the magistrate/jury the police were wrong. I wish them luck (honestly). The issue we have is we haven't enforced the very important stuff. So now we're fucked. So now we have to enforce the lot, even if this particular event (2 people arriving separately etc) seems small. As far as I'm concerned, the more people see enforcement, the more lives will be saved. So it's a good thing whether either of these women actually transmitted and actual covid etc...

HappyDreamer 6y ago
If they enforce the legislation far away in the forests or countryside, whilst ignore people walking in crowds in London on Christmas Eve [1], then I'm thinking this will lower the trust in the police and make people inclined to ignore the rules. Meaning, I think what the police did here, damages the trust in the legal system and covid response, slightly changing things for the worse. [1] London Christmas Lights Walk 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7wJZln6Kw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7wJZln6Kw
- LatteLazy 6y ago
  I don't think compliance can get much lower tbh. I hope I'm right about that but it's just my jaded opinion. I completely agree we have a massive issue that the government created themselves: they've encouraged non-compliance in every imaginable way. It's criminally poor. Now they're stuck: they need to turn it around and do so quickly. So they'll arrest these women having allowed crowds to fill tube trains. The only problem is they're doing the right thing. We need compliance and we need it now. It's not fair to these women. After this is over Bojo should be arrested. But right now, its necessary. Salus populi suprema lex esto (The public safety is the highest law)
  - HappyDreamer 6y ago
    > they've encouraged non-compliance in every imaginable way > Now they're stuck: they need to turn it around and do so quickly Situation about the same here where I live (also in Europe). Thanks for having written a bit more about how you're thinking.