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>They were understaffed, and it was clear that they could not protect both the building and the people. They correctly prioritized evacuating the people. I thi

>They were understaffed, and it was clear that they could not protect both the building and the people. They correctly prioritized evacuating the people. I think it's pretty clear at this point that they would have been overstaffed if the protestors had a different skin color.

opinion-is-bad 6y ago
I don’t think that’s clear at all. I’ve seen it often repeated by the media, but there is absolutely no evidence to support it. Repeating this is only driving the two sides further apart.
tclancy 6y ago
Username checks out -- if you can't see this to be obvious based on this summer, one of us is struggling with reality.
djsumdog 6y ago
> different skin color. In the 1970s, armed Black Panther members took the California State Capitol and no one died. At least one officer is dead (this changes daily so who knows) and one protestor (she was unarmed, that's a protestor, trespasser at best) was shot by sorry excuse of a Capitol Officer who shot wildly into a crowd (almost hitting the other Federal Officer behind her!) Please stop making this about race.
- deathgrips 6y ago
  You're not a protester if you are breaking into congress, breaking past a barricade, being told to stop, and walking towards an officer pointing his gun at you. You're suicidal.
  - djsumdog 6y ago
    But, they let these people in: https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234
    - deathgrips 6y ago
      Should've shot them too if they refused to back down
- giantrobot 6y ago
  The lady that was shot was attempting to enter a hallway through a window while people in the hallway were pointing guns at her. Just because she didn't have a visible weapon doesn't mean she wasn't a threat. Climbing through a broken window into a hallway protected by a makeshift barricade is itself a threatening action. No one at the head of a mob climbing over a barricade ever did so for innocent and non-threatening reasons. Suggesting otherwise is ludicrously stupid. Having seen multiple videos of the event it's clear the shooter was not firing wildly into the crowd. They were aiming specifically at the person trying to break into the area. She's dead because of her own actions.
  - djsumdog 6y ago
    Let's step back to before this happened. Why did the Capitol Police let people in: https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234
  - wrycoder 6y ago
    Note that she was wearing a good sized backpack. The shooter was wearing plainclothes- possibly Secret Service. It appears he was protecting something or someone important. Pence?
    - jsjohnst 6y ago
      Pence would not have been in the House Lobby area, he would've been taken directly from the Senate to a secure area.

opinion-is-bad 6y ago

I don’t think that’s clear at all. I’ve seen it often repeated by the media, but there is absolutely no evidence to support it. Repeating this is only driving the two sides further apart.

tclancy 6y ago

Username checks out -- if you can't see this to be obvious based on this summer, one of us is struggling with reality.

djsumdog 6y ago

> different skin color. In the 1970s, armed Black Panther members took the California State Capitol and no one died. At least one officer is dead (this changes daily so who knows) and one protestor (she was unarmed, that's a protestor, trespasser at best) was shot by sorry excuse of a Capitol Officer who shot wildly into a crowd (almost hitting the other Federal Officer behind her!) Please stop making this about race.

deathgrips 6y ago
You're not a protester if you are breaking into congress, breaking past a barricade, being told to stop, and walking towards an officer pointing his gun at you. You're suicidal.
- djsumdog 6y ago
  But, they let these people in: https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234
  - deathgrips 6y ago
    Should've shot them too if they refused to back down
giantrobot 6y ago
The lady that was shot was attempting to enter a hallway through a window while people in the hallway were pointing guns at her. Just because she didn't have a visible weapon doesn't mean she wasn't a threat. Climbing through a broken window into a hallway protected by a makeshift barricade is itself a threatening action. No one at the head of a mob climbing over a barricade ever did so for innocent and non-threatening reasons. Suggesting otherwise is ludicrously stupid. Having seen multiple videos of the event it's clear the shooter was not firing wildly into the crowd. They were aiming specifically at the person trying to break into the area. She's dead because of her own actions.
- djsumdog 6y ago
  Let's step back to before this happened. Why did the Capitol Police let people in: https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234 https://twitter.com/i/status/1347615998610911234
- wrycoder 6y ago
  Note that she was wearing a good sized backpack. The shooter was wearing plainclothes- possibly Secret Service. It appears he was protecting something or someone important. Pence?
  - jsjohnst 6y ago
    Pence would not have been in the House Lobby area, he would've been taken directly from the Senate to a secure area.