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As someone who voted for Joe Biden, I'm not surprised at all by the current response from the right, even those who aren't hell bent on supporting Trump. Silen

As someone who voted for Joe Biden, I'm not surprised at all by the current response from the right, even those who aren't hell bent on supporting Trump. Silencing people doesn't make them go away or give up,it makes them double down on their beliefs (whether based on conspiracy theories or not) and continue to escalate. Good faith arguments and honest media are how we solve this problem, not by banning people we disagree with just to feel good on the inside.

x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
No one is obligated to deal with folks who consistently argue for their marginalization in bad faith.
- 2020swillbelit 6y ago
  Of course you're not obligated. But it's in all of our best interest to talk with them rather than suppress their voices (however crazy). Many metrics relating to quality of life for many Americans are trending in the wrong direction. We cannot afford to further decouple people from society. This isn't just for the rural working classes but also the inner city poor. People need to feel worth and have a life of meaning otherwise they can become dangerous liabilities.
  - x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
    They are decoupled from society because they see a dimming of the white hegemony that has lit their world for centuries. No amount of listening to their Jim Crow rhetoric will ever change that.
    - 2020swillbelit 6y ago
      Then to you, they are too far gone and are already enemies. I only see conflict arising through that perspective. I have too much to lose for that to happen. I hope you realize the implications of your line of thought, not to just yourself, but to society around you.
      - x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
        I'm African-American, US History is dripping with blood from the countless times whit supremacy has reasserted itself over and over again. This isn't anything new or special.
        koolk3ychain 6y ago
        I don't really see how implicating "all white people" as complicit in modern day whit supremacy isn't basically the definition of a claim in bad faith? This kind of cryptic pseudo argument is what makes these people even more incensed. Applying your logic to your own politics would lead me to believe that "all left leaning americans" are communists who want to take my property by force, just because I saw one hammer and sickle on a flag. Vitriol doesn't sow peace my friend.
        x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
        Can you point to where I said "all white people"? Seems like my explicit mention of race has brought up feelings of anxiety in you and you threw out a strawman to compensate.

x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago

No one is obligated to deal with folks who consistently argue for their marginalization in bad faith.

2020swillbelit 6y ago
Of course you're not obligated. But it's in all of our best interest to talk with them rather than suppress their voices (however crazy). Many metrics relating to quality of life for many Americans are trending in the wrong direction. We cannot afford to further decouple people from society. This isn't just for the rural working classes but also the inner city poor. People need to feel worth and have a life of meaning otherwise they can become dangerous liabilities.
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
  They are decoupled from society because they see a dimming of the white hegemony that has lit their world for centuries. No amount of listening to their Jim Crow rhetoric will ever change that.
  - 2020swillbelit 6y ago
    Then to you, they are too far gone and are already enemies. I only see conflict arising through that perspective. I have too much to lose for that to happen. I hope you realize the implications of your line of thought, not to just yourself, but to society around you.
    - x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
      I'm African-American, US History is dripping with blood from the countless times whit supremacy has reasserted itself over and over again. This isn't anything new or special.
      - koolk3ychain 6y ago
        I don't really see how implicating "all white people" as complicit in modern day whit supremacy isn't basically the definition of a claim in bad faith? This kind of cryptic pseudo argument is what makes these people even more incensed. Applying your logic to your own politics would lead me to believe that "all left leaning americans" are communists who want to take my property by force, just because I saw one hammer and sickle on a flag. Vitriol doesn't sow peace my friend.
        x86_64Ubuntu 6y ago
        Can you point to where I said "all white people"? Seems like my explicit mention of race has brought up feelings of anxiety in you and you threw out a strawman to compensate.