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When you use words such as seditious and mob, I want to remind you that words have power and that those words don’t unify but rather tend to divide and amplify

When you use words such as seditious and mob, I want to remind you that words have power and that those words don’t unify but rather tend to divide and amplify hatred on both sides. There were many instances where protests got out of hand this summer and courthouses and police stations were destroyed; entire city blocks were taken over and those responsible enacted and enforced their own laws. The actions weren’t referred to as sedition and most media outlets avoided words like mob, treason, etc. Of course, don’t take my statement to mean I condone ANY case of violence, rioting, property damage, etc. (And in all cases those responsible and those inciting violence should be held accountable) but being consistent and avoiding charged language when depicting civil unrest would go a long way to heal the country rather than to divide it.

trustfundbaby 6y ago
yes, because they didn't literally overrun the seat of power and threaten to topple the government. Seditious is spot on.
dragontamer 6y ago
> When you use words such as seditious and mob The seditious mob injured 50 officers and killed one of them. You should quit defending them. Stop with the "both-sidesisms". We can clearly point out which group is evil here.
adamsea 6y ago
> those words don’t unify but rather tend to divide and amplify hatred Hahahahaha unify. You. The one enabling white supremacy by refusing to name it. Unify.
Exuma 6y ago
I don't disagree the problem is the left has so many examples that this hypocrisy is just excruciating to me. You literally have people creating lists to blackball anyone who supports trump, praised and lauded by some political people high up on the food chain. I rarely ever see the left actively support an ACTUAL view of "unity," and believe me, I truly look for it by looking at all opposing views on my social media, on people I disagree with, etc.
- gremlinsinc 6y ago
  > You literally have people creating lists to blackball anyone who supports trump Like the way Clarence Thomas's wife made lists of people not loyal to Trump to be fired? "Axios first reported that a "well-connected network of conservative activists" is drawing up lists of officials they perceive to be anti-Trump, who are then flagged to be fired and replaced with Trump loyalists." https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-deep-state-white-house-ce5be95f-2418-433d-b036-2bf41c9700c3.html https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-deep-state-white-house-ce5... https://www.businessinsider.com/ginni-thomas-wife-supreme-court-justice-clarence-trump-loyalist-2020-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/ginni-thomas-wife-supreme-co... Seems to me a certain leader followed this same playbook circa 1939.
ModernMech 6y ago
> The actions weren’t referred to as sedition and most media outlets avoided words like mob, treason, etc. "Barr Told Prosecutors to Consider Sedition Charges for Protest Violence" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/16/us/politics/william-barr-sedition.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/16/us/politics/william-barr-... This is about the protests over the summer, not the recent insurrection. Yes, I'm calling it that. I think functionally it matters a bit more if the USAG is using words like "sedition" compared to media outlets or internet posters.
commandlinefan 6y ago
> words have power Words start out with power - until they're overused to the point of banality and lose it.
malcolmgreaves 6y ago
> There were many instances where protests got out of hand this summer and courthouses and police stations were destroyed; The white supremacist terrorists's goal yesterday was to prevent a formal certification process that's central to the transition of executive power. Many people were armed and prepared for violence: multiple IEDs were found, multiple people had body armor, multiple people had loaded firearms & extra ammunition, people brought a guillitine, people were shouting chants about killing senators & reps, multiple people had zip-ties or handcuffs. That is sedition. Unlike BLM protestors, the terrorist's intent was a coup: they wanted to undermine a democracy's most important legal process. BLM wants to use legal means to revolutionize the country's public safety, primarily via re-allocating city and state police budgets to programs that have effective track records of increasing public safety and not ending in the murder of Black people.

trustfundbaby 6y ago

yes, because they didn't literally overrun the seat of power and threaten to topple the government. Seditious is spot on.

dragontamer 6y ago

> When you use words such as seditious and mob The seditious mob injured 50 officers and killed one of them. You should quit defending them. Stop with the "both-sidesisms". We can clearly point out which group is evil here.

adamsea 6y ago

> those words don’t unify but rather tend to divide and amplify hatred Hahahahaha unify. You. The one enabling white supremacy by refusing to name it. Unify.

Exuma 6y ago

I don't disagree the problem is the left has so many examples that this hypocrisy is just excruciating to me. You literally have people creating lists to blackball anyone who supports trump, praised and lauded by some political people high up on the food chain. I rarely ever see the left actively support an ACTUAL view of "unity," and believe me, I truly look for it by looking at all opposing views on my social media, on people I disagree with, etc.

gremlinsinc 6y ago
> You literally have people creating lists to blackball anyone who supports trump Like the way Clarence Thomas's wife made lists of people not loyal to Trump to be fired? "Axios first reported that a "well-connected network of conservative activists" is drawing up lists of officials they perceive to be anti-Trump, who are then flagged to be fired and replaced with Trump loyalists." https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-deep-state-white-house-ce5be95f-2418-433d-b036-2bf41c9700c3.html https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-deep-state-white-house-ce5... https://www.businessinsider.com/ginni-thomas-wife-supreme-court-justice-clarence-trump-loyalist-2020-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/ginni-thomas-wife-supreme-co... Seems to me a certain leader followed this same playbook circa 1939.

ModernMech 6y ago

> The actions weren’t referred to as sedition and most media outlets avoided words like mob, treason, etc. "Barr Told Prosecutors to Consider Sedition Charges for Protest Violence" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/16/us/politics/william-barr-sedition.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/16/us/politics/william-barr-... This is about the protests over the summer, not the recent insurrection. Yes, I'm calling it that. I think functionally it matters a bit more if the USAG is using words like "sedition" compared to media outlets or internet posters.

commandlinefan 6y ago

> words have power Words start out with power - until they're overused to the point of banality and lose it.

malcolmgreaves 6y ago

> There were many instances where protests got out of hand this summer and courthouses and police stations were destroyed; The white supremacist terrorists's goal yesterday was to prevent a formal certification process that's central to the transition of executive power. Many people were armed and prepared for violence: multiple IEDs were found, multiple people had body armor, multiple people had loaded firearms & extra ammunition, people brought a guillitine, people were shouting chants about killing senators & reps, multiple people had zip-ties or handcuffs. That is sedition. Unlike BLM protestors, the terrorist's intent was a coup: they wanted to undermine a democracy's most important legal process. BLM wants to use legal means to revolutionize the country's public safety, primarily via re-allocating city and state police budgets to programs that have effective track records of increasing public safety and not ending in the murder of Black people.