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Deplatforming works. A few people follow to other sites, but most don't. It also becomes harder to attract new cultists if one is shut out of major services. h
by cultus 6y ago
Deplatforming works. A few people follow to other sites, but most don't. It also becomes harder to attract new cultists if one is shut out of major services.
https://gnet-research.org/2020/05/11/weighing-the-value-and-risks-of-deplatforming/ https://gnet-research.org/2020/05/11/weighing-the-value-and-...
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y agoYes, it is one of the methods used by Russian government to silence the opposition. Though the platforms are usually privately owned, they all 'independently' decide that some content can't be allowed on them. Same will happen with the US. Sad.
- cultus 6y agoYeah, it's so sad that the poor fascists are being oppressed. They only tried to do a little coup and now everybody is being mean to them and hurting their feelings. Good job posting this under your real name.
- dang 6y agoYou can't attack other users on HN like this, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules. Burning this place down is not an option. Edit: given that your recent comments have been this shockingly abusive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681577 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681577 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681549 ... I've banned your account until we get some reason to believe that you want to use this site as intended. That level of abuse is deeply not ok. No, I'm not siding with liars-fascists-traitors. We'd ban any account that posted this way. Being right doesn't give you any excuse to behave like this, and no matter how wrong your enemies are, it doesn't give you the right to destroy the commons. It's not in your own interest to do that either, but that's another story.
- cultus 6y agoYou tolerate fascists on this site. Just ban me then.
- lostmsu 6y agoThis is not true. Russian government does not dictate FB and YouTube (which it does not own), and they would have to force ISPs to block these sites if they wanted to ban the content. I doubt ISPs would ban them themselves.
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y agoDo not be so fast with 'not true' claims. Russia has at least three social networks, each with audience bigger than russian audience of Facebook and Twitter combined. All three remove anti-putin groups, etc.
- lostmsu 6y agoAFAIK, VK does not yet remove anti-putin groups. Also, VK, OK, what's the third one? YouTube is prevalent over all of them regardless. I found data here: https://russiansearchmarketing.com/10-key-statistics-social-media-usage-russia-2019/ https://russiansearchmarketing.com/10-key-statistics-social-...
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y agothe third one is Moi Mir (https://my.mail.ru https://my.mail.ru), an extension of by far the most popular email service in Russia. Mail.ru corporation actually owns all three of them. VK absolutely does remove anti-putin groups and events. [1] [1]: https://newsland.com/user/4297807604/content/vkontakte-zablokiroval-stranitsy-mitingov-storonnikov-navalnogo/6022673 https://newsland.com/user/4297807604/content/vkontakte-zablo...
- ng12 6y agoVK is much, much more popular than FB is Russia. It's a Russian company and absolutely forced to censor content on behalf of the govt.
- BitwiseFool 6y agoIf Deplatforming works, I can't wait for the right to start deplatforming leftists!
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- courtf 6y agoHmm, deplatforming... Is that what the right calls opening the trapdoor on the gallows?
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- ThrowawayR2 6y agoAs has been so often quoted on HN, "The 'Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." I see no reason for things to be different this time.