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It has not been proven. This is false. Please stop spreading it. Multiple people were killed in clashes with the police. They did not help the rioters. This is

It has not been proven. This is false. Please stop spreading it. Multiple people were killed in clashes with the police. They did not help the rioters. This is the type of misinformation that caused all these problems.

danaris 6y ago
Without any specific knowledge on this case one way or the other, both of these things can be simultaneously true: Some Capitol police stuck to their duty and tried to keep the insurrectionists out, while others agreed with them, let them in, and took selfies with them. "The Capitol Police" is not a single, monolithic entity; it's made up of individual people, with their own political views.
akersten 6y ago
Police taking selfie with terrorist: https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520 https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520 Police letting terrorists in: https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1346931235176783873 https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1346931235176783873
- itronitron 6y ago
  Regarding the second video, there were already protesters behind the barrier so those police may have been ordered to move back to another area. The bigger concern for me is the understaffing and declining of offers of assistance made by other police departments.
- waterside81 6y ago
  Here's another video of cops letting people in. https://twitter.com/christina_bobb/status/1347596278583197698 https://twitter.com/christina_bobb/status/134759627858319769...
  - odonnellryan 6y ago
    This is the video that really got me thinking about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kt2u9v/confirmed_that_some_police_were_involved_in_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kt2u9v/conf... Not sure what happened, I hope we find out, but this video is especially damning.
    - mimikatz 6y ago
      try this video https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/video-shows-capitol-police-cop-getting-crushed-by-protesters/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/video-shows-capitol-police-cop...
      - pkaye 6y ago
        This is the YouTube channel that came from. Lots of other videos there like talking to the MAGA crowd after the riot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1216&v=cJOgGsC0G9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1216&v=cJOgGsC0G9U
  - kelchqvjpnfasjl 6y ago
    Here are videos from 2 locations where protestors fought the police and pushed past them. That is the opposite of letting them in. IMO I think the instances where they were "letting people in" were because the barriers had already been breached on other sides so there was no point holding lines where there would already be people in behind them. https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1347077988756676608 https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1347077988756676608 https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1347031398176223233 https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1347031398176223233
- smcl 6y ago
  Re the second one - I also saw some footage where a couple of police were, I dunno, ushering them or encouraging them through barriers towards the building. Like "come on, come on!" - that kind of gesture. I have to stress though that I agree with "danaris" one level up from from this comment - it seems perfectly believable that individual police sympathised and aided these people. However it's not "The Police" as an entity as some others are suggesting, that's venturing into Q territory and is a bit Conspiracy Theory for me.
- mimikatz 6y ago
  The video (letting them in) doesn't show what you think it does. Capital Police leadership planned poorly and their leadership is at fault. They had to fall back to more secure chokepoints because they were outnumbered and overwhelmed. The cops didn't let anyone in. They killed someone and one of them was killed in the fighting. Please don't stir up trouble with fake conjecture over a 30 second clip that doesn't show what really happened. It is what caused a lot of these problems. You are making it worse.
  - FireBeyond 6y ago
    No... if those officers had fallen back, sure, all good. I don't see an issue there. But literally you have an officer (and yes, I get it, individual versus collective) who moves gates, and starts waving protestors through. If you're falling back because you're overwhelmed by a surge, the last thing you do is _remove obstacles between you and the surge_!
spear 6y ago
> Multiple people were killed in clashes with the police. "Multiple"? Do you have proof of this? There was one woman who was shot by police. As far as I know, it is not yet clear how the others (excluding the Capitol officer) died. I've seen reports that one man got a heart attack after tasing himself and another fell off some scaffolding.

danaris 6y ago

Without any specific knowledge on this case one way or the other, both of these things can be simultaneously true: Some Capitol police stuck to their duty and tried to keep the insurrectionists out, while others agreed with them, let them in, and took selfies with them. "The Capitol Police" is not a single, monolithic entity; it's made up of individual people, with their own political views.

akersten 6y ago

Police taking selfie with terrorist: https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520 https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520 Police letting terrorists in: https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1346931235176783873 https://twitter.com/joshuapotash/status/1346931235176783873

itronitron 6y ago
Regarding the second video, there were already protesters behind the barrier so those police may have been ordered to move back to another area. The bigger concern for me is the understaffing and declining of offers of assistance made by other police departments.
waterside81 6y ago
Here's another video of cops letting people in. https://twitter.com/christina_bobb/status/1347596278583197698 https://twitter.com/christina_bobb/status/134759627858319769...
- odonnellryan 6y ago
  This is the video that really got me thinking about this: https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kt2u9v/confirmed_that_some_police_were_involved_in_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kt2u9v/conf... Not sure what happened, I hope we find out, but this video is especially damning.
  - mimikatz 6y ago
    try this video https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/video-shows-capitol-police-cop-getting-crushed-by-protesters/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/video-shows-capitol-police-cop...
    - pkaye 6y ago
      This is the YouTube channel that came from. Lots of other videos there like talking to the MAGA crowd after the riot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1216&v=cJOgGsC0G9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1216&v=cJOgGsC0G9U
- kelchqvjpnfasjl 6y ago
  Here are videos from 2 locations where protestors fought the police and pushed past them. That is the opposite of letting them in. IMO I think the instances where they were "letting people in" were because the barriers had already been breached on other sides so there was no point holding lines where there would already be people in behind them. https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1347077988756676608 https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1347077988756676608 https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1347031398176223233 https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1347031398176223233
smcl 6y ago
Re the second one - I also saw some footage where a couple of police were, I dunno, ushering them or encouraging them through barriers towards the building. Like "come on, come on!" - that kind of gesture. I have to stress though that I agree with "danaris" one level up from from this comment - it seems perfectly believable that individual police sympathised and aided these people. However it's not "The Police" as an entity as some others are suggesting, that's venturing into Q territory and is a bit Conspiracy Theory for me.
mimikatz 6y ago
The video (letting them in) doesn't show what you think it does. Capital Police leadership planned poorly and their leadership is at fault. They had to fall back to more secure chokepoints because they were outnumbered and overwhelmed. The cops didn't let anyone in. They killed someone and one of them was killed in the fighting. Please don't stir up trouble with fake conjecture over a 30 second clip that doesn't show what really happened. It is what caused a lot of these problems. You are making it worse.
- FireBeyond 6y ago
  No... if those officers had fallen back, sure, all good. I don't see an issue there. But literally you have an officer (and yes, I get it, individual versus collective) who moves gates, and starts waving protestors through. If you're falling back because you're overwhelmed by a surge, the last thing you do is _remove obstacles between you and the surge_!

spear 6y ago

> Multiple people were killed in clashes with the police. "Multiple"? Do you have proof of this? There was one woman who was shot by police. As far as I know, it is not yet clear how the others (excluding the Capitol officer) died. I've seen reports that one man got a heart attack after tasing himself and another fell off some scaffolding.