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I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. However, if this is going to be the official stance of Reddit admins, I e
by justaman 6y ago
I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. However, if this is going to be the official stance of Reddit admins, I encourage them to take a look at /r/sino and a few other communities that regularly violate the rules.
- whymauri 6y ago>I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. The alternative platforms tend to die off, though. Like Voat.
- mschuster91 6y ago> The alternative platforms tend to die off, though. Because it turns out that those drifting to "alternative, free speech" platforms mostly are Nazis and pedos, and normal people don't want to hang out on a platform where the only other people are Nazis and pedos. To put it bluntly: the free market has decided that Nazi opinion and pedo stuff is not welcomed.
- dleslie 6y agoSome do, others stick around. Like Gab, Parler and others.
- whymauri 6y agoWe'll see. Parler (two years old) in particular is especially young. I'm not sure if Gab (four years old) has the funding to survive another few years. Voat lasted six solid years before running out of cash, so that's going to be my approximate benchmark. Parler might outlast both if politicians keep moving to that platform. In that case, I might be wrong. TheDonald.win is way too focused, though.
- jandrese 6y ago4chan has managed to hang on despite everything. Although many of the spinoff chans have collapsed.
- redisman 6y agoParler in it's current form probably won't survive the next spree shooter or whatever it causes. It's way too traditional in it's setup as a "normal" US company. The only sites that survive these kinds of things need to be decentralized and find hosting and cloud services from non-traditional sources.
- edmundsauto 6y agoKicking them off is advantageous for Reddit because they no longer have to deal with the dramas.
- simonswords82 6y agoTrue, but they also sacrifice eyeballs and revenue.
- Solocomplex 6y agoThey disabled advertising displayed on those subreddits.
- edmundsauto 6y agoIt may be shocking, but sometimes companies try to make decisions that benefit them in the long run. Even advertising companies! It makes sense that a toxic environment will turn off people in the long run, and most well intentioned people (ie the majority of Reddit, Google, or FB employees) want to run a platform that adds value and is not a cesspool. The realities of staying in business sometimes override that. I don’t think we should consider it a default.
- minikites 6y ago>It makes sense that a toxic environment will turn off people in the long run, and most well intentioned people (ie the majority of Reddit, Google, or FB employees) want to run a platform that adds value and is not a cesspool. I don't think this is supported by the evidence. The evidence: the current state of Twitter, Facebook, etc. None of them have the necessary level of moderation and until they do, they will continue to be cesspools.
- throwaway45349 6y agoThere is not enough people in the world to moderate social media.
- cultus 6y agoDeplatforming works. A few people follow to other sites, but most don't. It also becomes harder to attract new cultists if one is shut out of major services. https://gnet-research.org/2020/05/11/weighing-the-value-and-risks-of-deplatforming/ https://gnet-research.org/2020/05/11/weighing-the-value-and-...
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y agoYes, it is one of the methods used by Russian government to silence the opposition. Though the platforms are usually privately owned, they all 'independently' decide that some content can't be allowed on them. Same will happen with the US. Sad.
- cultus 6y agoYeah, it's so sad that the poor fascists are being oppressed. They only tried to do a little coup and now everybody is being mean to them and hurting their feelings. Good job posting this under your real name.
- dang 6y agoYou can't attack other users on HN like this, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules. Burning this place down is not an option. Edit: given that your recent comments have been this shockingly abusive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681577 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681577 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25681549 ... I've banned your account until we get some reason to believe that you want to use this site as intended. That level of abuse is deeply not ok. No, I'm not siding with liars-fascists-traitors. We'd ban any account that posted this way. Being right doesn't give you any excuse to behave like this, and no matter how wrong your enemies are, it doesn't give you the right to destroy the commons. It's not in your own interest to do that either, but that's another story.
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- nixass 6y agoWell Reddit is partly funded by Chinese so keeping r/Sino is understandable
- eznzt 6y agoWhat is wrong with /r/sino?
- gruez 6y agoHave you visited it? It's basically a pro-china circlejerk subreddit.
- eznzt 6y agoI have, and I don't see what's wrong with it. I understand it exists because /r/china is an anti-China circlejerk subreddit. If you don't like either of them then don't visit them?
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- boruto 6y agoSo a pro china circlejerk has to be banned? Do you have any other wrongthink which should be banned?
- antonzabirko 6y agoReddit will not ban sino because the tencent investors wont let them.