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Tesla seem to do a lot of running changes, are they certifying each one?
by xvf22 6y ago
Tesla seem to do a lot of running changes, are they certifying each one?
- tobyjsullivan 6y agoI don't see why they'd be exempt, generally. Obviously they only need to certify the changes that make it to production but, yeah, that still seems like more than other automakers. I'm guessing one advantage Tesla has over traditional automakers is their entire company has been built around the existing regulatory environment. I'd be willing to bet their recertification process is quite streamlined compared to companies that have iteratively patched it on to their tradition vehicle design processes. Just a guess though; I have no background knowledge on this topic.
- brundolf 6y ago"Continuous [Regulatory] Integration"
- vslira 6y agoFrankly it's a brilliant innovation, assuming that's the case. Applying new regulations quicker is definitely a moat in a heavily regulated environment, as long as it's not half-arsed
- turbinerneiter 6y agoThe traditional automakers are the ones making the regulation, trough lobbying (in the good and bad sense of the world). There isn't a regulation passed on the car industry that the car industry isn't part of writing. I highly doubt that the traditional carmakers are slowed down by regulations. Would be cool to find someone who has actual insights to ask this.
- mywittyname 6y agoThere are lots of mechanisms to fast-track changes. If Ford changes the headlight assembly on the next year Mustang, they don't go and crash the car again. They (or a supplier) fill out the certification form showing that their testing indicates the new headlight assembly abides by all the regulations imposed on vehicles, and submit it to the relevant state and federal bodies. You can generally tell what revisions are straight-forward to certify and which are not by noting common year-to-year changes in a model.
- terafo 6y agoAFAIK Tesla tries to produce as much as they can in-house. They are designing their own chips for their cars, for example.
- taneq 6y agoThat sure would make it easier if the regulation is written as "you must use the same supplier" and they can just say "yup, it me".
- MichaelZuo 6y agoPerhaps it is the biggest reason why they did that in the first place.
- numpad0 6y agoAnd that contributed to their stupid issues like skipping conformal coating and cars getting runaway power steering from it
- zaroth 6y agoCan you point to the recall from this? The recall I can find is to replace 3 bolts that can corrode due to salt which would cause loss of power steering. I’m not sure what runaway power steering is?
- numpad0 6y agoCrazy in a general context of cars but not sure they issued recalls? That seems normal wrt Teslas. IIRC the root cause was water intrusion into power steering ECU on MS P100D, could be rain or condensation.
- londons_explore 6y agoNot unique to them... An entirely reproducible power glitch in my early honda hybrid causes the power steering to steer at full power to the left... End result is the wheel spins with so much force it broke my thumbs... Lucky I was only doing 5mph at the time! It's 100% a design fault, and applies equally to any car of this model (I tested it on a friends, same result!). There are simple reproduction steps which can totally happen by accident, yet there has been no recall or service bulletin issued. I ended up pulling the power steering controller apart and adding my own safety circuit to the microcontroller output so my car is now the only car of this model which won't break your thumbs or steer you into a ditch!