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France seems to have problems generating enough electricity for the current winter demand. https://www.lefigaro.fr/conso/electricite-pour-eviter-des-coupures-l

by lispm 6y ago

France seems to have problems generating enough electricity for the current winter demand. https://www.lefigaro.fr/conso/electricite-pour-eviter-des-coupures-les-francais-invites-a-reduire-leur-consommation-vendredi-20210107 https://www.lefigaro.fr/conso/electricite-pour-eviter-des-co... https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/People-in-France-asked-to-cut-electricity-during-cold-snap-today https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/People-in-France... Britain, too: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britains-national-grid-issues-warning-072644826.html https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britains-national-grid-issues-warn... German press reports about cold temperature and of not enough nuclear power online in France. Reason: maintenance backlogs due to Corona. 44 of 56 reactors are online, next week only 43. They'll may import up to 12 GW electricity from Switzerland and Germany. https://www.fr.de/wirtschaft/droht-frankreich-ein-blackout-90162535.html https://www.fr.de/wirtschaft/droht-frankreich-ein-blackout-9...

gonzo41 6y ago
People are meant to be sharing heating in an office building during the day. I have a wood fire, and I usually have enough wood stacked in summer to make it through winter. Last year I was out in the cold chopping because we had the fire on all the time.
littlestymaar 6y ago
While true, it's very unlikely to be the reason for what we're seeing here (a sharp drop at 14:05), it's most likely related to a plant failure (likely a nuclear / hydro plant) somewhere in Europe. Edit: according to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25685833 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25685833 it means that there's more than 4GW went missing, which rules out a hydro plant failure and make nuclear plant failure unlikely (only three plants, all of them in France, would be big enough for that and there was no drop in French electricity production today: https://www.rte-france.com/eco2mix/la-production-delectricite-par-filiere https://www.rte-france.com/eco2mix/la-production-delectricit...)
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  Indeed, it's too sharp.. I wonder if we'll find out what happened.
- raverbashing 6y ago
  The weirder part to me is that small peak right before it started going down. Maybe some overreaction by the grid (or a plant failure as speculated)?
GekkePrutser 6y ago
It's also more than ususally cold here in Barcelona, and many people have electric heating (inefficient but rarely needed). I don't know what I'd do if the power fails :S I have UPS power backup for my servers but not for heating obviously (that's way too much power for batteries)
- a9h74j 6y ago
  If you aren't aware, heated vests consume ca 10W. I haven't tried one yet, but this is a direction I see things heading.
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    Oh yeah I suppose that might be an option if the power fails completely. I wouldn't use one instead of regular heating though :)
lima 6y ago
Amprion, the company currently in charge of coordinating the network, states that the cause is still unknown as of two hours ago: https://twitter.com/Amprion/status/1347595605971972100 https://twitter.com/Amprion/status/1347595605971972100

by lispm 6y ago

gonzo41 6y ago

People are meant to be sharing heating in an office building during the day. I have a wood fire, and I usually have enough wood stacked in summer to make it through winter. Last year I was out in the cold chopping because we had the fire on all the time.

littlestymaar 6y ago

While true, it's very unlikely to be the reason for what we're seeing here (a sharp drop at 14:05), it's most likely related to a plant failure (likely a nuclear / hydro plant) somewhere in Europe. Edit: according to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25685833 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25685833 it means that there's more than 4GW went missing, which rules out a hydro plant failure and make nuclear plant failure unlikely (only three plants, all of them in France, would be big enough for that and there was no drop in French electricity production today: https://www.rte-france.com/eco2mix/la-production-delectricite-par-filiere https://www.rte-france.com/eco2mix/la-production-delectricit...)

GekkePrutser 6y ago
Indeed, it's too sharp.. I wonder if we'll find out what happened.
raverbashing 6y ago
The weirder part to me is that small peak right before it started going down. Maybe some overreaction by the grid (or a plant failure as speculated)?

GekkePrutser 6y ago

It's also more than ususally cold here in Barcelona, and many people have electric heating (inefficient but rarely needed). I don't know what I'd do if the power fails :S I have UPS power backup for my servers but not for heating obviously (that's way too much power for batteries)

a9h74j 6y ago
If you aren't aware, heated vests consume ca 10W. I haven't tried one yet, but this is a direction I see things heading.
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  Oh yeah I suppose that might be an option if the power fails completely. I wouldn't use one instead of regular heating though :)

lima 6y ago

Amprion, the company currently in charge of coordinating the network, states that the cause is still unknown as of two hours ago: https://twitter.com/Amprion/status/1347595605971972100 https://twitter.com/Amprion/status/1347595605971972100