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Apple sells hardware. They are a hardware company, who realized early on that they need to ship great software to go along with their hardware. They are not in

by fn1 6y ago

Apple sells hardware. They are a hardware company, who realized early on that they need to ship great software to go along with their hardware. They are not interested in new users on devices which don't increase their hardware-sales. They are also not interested in selling your private information. They. sell. hardware.

mrlala 6y ago
You know what's funny here? You seem to be actively defending their decision and putting it in the vein of "well they sell hardware so they are going to do anything they can to get you to use their hardware!!". And that's supposed to make it OK? Fuck that logic. As other people have mentioned, if iMessage would have opened up to other platforms it would probably be what everyone uses and would be GOOD FOR EVERYONE. But instead, they wall it to their shit. My mom constantly tells me she doesn't get my text messages from android to her 100% apple ecosystem. I can't do anything about it. It doesn't make any sense, but it's on Apple. They probably even leave these "unfixed issues" to get everyone to move to imessage just so they will buy their hardware. Fuck Apple for their decision on this. Stop defending it. It's a horrible decision.
- dylan604 6y ago
  Do you feel the same way about not being able to play Nintendo games on a Playstation or an Xbox? I mean how dare they try to operate a business.
  - mrlala 6y ago
    >Do you feel the same way about not being able to play Nintendo games on a Playstation or an Xbox? Yeah, because me trying to text an Apple phone from a non-apple phone is the same thing as trying to play a nintendo game on an xbox. Fuck off dude.
    - dylan604 6y ago
      I'm sorry, but if you are unable to send a text to an Apple device from a non-Apple device, then you must be broken. If you stated that you cannot send an iMessage from a non-Apple device to an Apple device, then you'd be correct. However, an iMessage is not a text. Any text capable device is able to send a text to any other text capable device. If the app one reads those texts is called WhatsApp, iMessage, or ImTooStupidToKnowTheDifference.app, it doesn't matter.
- fn1 6y ago
  > My mom constantly tells me she doesn't get my text messages from android to her 100% apple ecosystem. That is weird and never happened to me. SMS works everywhere. Does she maybe have your number in a blocklist?
pkulak 6y ago
> They are also not interested in selling your private information. Trust me, they are interested. They are a private corporation. They are interested in every potential revenue stream. Today it may not be their strategy because of the potential for it to reduce revenue, but who knows what tomorrow will bring.
- xref 6y ago
  Is this where we spitball hypotheticals even if no inclination to execute them has ever been shown? “Trust me, they are interested in murdering you and extracting your vital fluids for profit. It may not be their strategy today because it could reduce revenue, but who knows what tomorrow will bring”
  - pkulak 6y ago
    I haven't seen more than one or two multinational corporations murdering and extracting vital fluids from their customers. Monetizing personal information, however, seems pretty reasonable to expect based on past history.
    - fn1 6y ago
      > Monetizing personal information, however, seems pretty reasonable to expect based on past history. Which history would that be when it comes to Apple?
      - pkulak 6y ago
        History of corporations. I guess, if you want to make the case that Apple is wholly unique, and the entire history of corporate conduct doesn't apply here, then fine. I just don't have the will to debate that one.
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by fn1 6y ago

mrlala 6y ago

You know what's funny here? You seem to be actively defending their decision and putting it in the vein of "well they sell hardware so they are going to do anything they can to get you to use their hardware!!". And that's supposed to make it OK? Fuck that logic. As other people have mentioned, if iMessage would have opened up to other platforms it would probably be what everyone uses and would be GOOD FOR EVERYONE. But instead, they wall it to their shit. My mom constantly tells me she doesn't get my text messages from android to her 100% apple ecosystem. I can't do anything about it. It doesn't make any sense, but it's on Apple. They probably even leave these "unfixed issues" to get everyone to move to imessage just so they will buy their hardware. Fuck Apple for their decision on this. Stop defending it. It's a horrible decision.

dylan604 6y ago
Do you feel the same way about not being able to play Nintendo games on a Playstation or an Xbox? I mean how dare they try to operate a business.
- mrlala 6y ago
  >Do you feel the same way about not being able to play Nintendo games on a Playstation or an Xbox? Yeah, because me trying to text an Apple phone from a non-apple phone is the same thing as trying to play a nintendo game on an xbox. Fuck off dude.
  - dylan604 6y ago
    I'm sorry, but if you are unable to send a text to an Apple device from a non-Apple device, then you must be broken. If you stated that you cannot send an iMessage from a non-Apple device to an Apple device, then you'd be correct. However, an iMessage is not a text. Any text capable device is able to send a text to any other text capable device. If the app one reads those texts is called WhatsApp, iMessage, or ImTooStupidToKnowTheDifference.app, it doesn't matter.
fn1 6y ago
> My mom constantly tells me she doesn't get my text messages from android to her 100% apple ecosystem. That is weird and never happened to me. SMS works everywhere. Does she maybe have your number in a blocklist?

pkulak 6y ago

> They are also not interested in selling your private information. Trust me, they are interested. They are a private corporation. They are interested in every potential revenue stream. Today it may not be their strategy because of the potential for it to reduce revenue, but who knows what tomorrow will bring.

xref 6y ago
Is this where we spitball hypotheticals even if no inclination to execute them has ever been shown? “Trust me, they are interested in murdering you and extracting your vital fluids for profit. It may not be their strategy today because it could reduce revenue, but who knows what tomorrow will bring”
- pkulak 6y ago
  I haven't seen more than one or two multinational corporations murdering and extracting vital fluids from their customers. Monetizing personal information, however, seems pretty reasonable to expect based on past history.
  - fn1 6y ago
    > Monetizing personal information, however, seems pretty reasonable to expect based on past history. Which history would that be when it comes to Apple?
    - pkulak 6y ago
      History of corporations. I guess, if you want to make the case that Apple is wholly unique, and the entire history of corporate conduct doesn't apply here, then fine. I just don't have the will to debate that one.
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