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>iMessage seems to be a bit dishonest, because Apple, the owner, has way more information about you through iCloud and Apple ID - contacts, location, payment da
by everdrive 6y ago
>iMessage seems to be a bit dishonest, because Apple, the owner, has way more information about you through iCloud and Apple ID - contacts, location, payment data, phone number, etc.
But do they bring all that data together, correlate it, and sell it?
- ampdepolymerase 6y agoA government agency can still order them to hand over all data they have, they are still a single point of failure from a privacy point of view.
- everdrive 6y agoI think that's fair, but is certainly a different concern than what facebook is doing.
- tinus_hn 6y agoIt is debatable what that data includes but even if true it isn’t what these labels are about. The list shows purposes and types of data and Facebook declares they use all that data for the purposes of tracking, advertising and analytics.
- grishka 6y agoYou can't know that. The moment it reaches their servers, you are not in control of what actually happens to it.
- izacus 6y agoCan any app on AppStore avoid declaring those flags if they say in their marketing that they don't sell it? Or why does it matter for Apple and not for them?
- shuckles 6y agoData used to track you is gathered separately from data linked to you.
- Anon1096 6y agoNo advertising agency sells your data. That would destroy all their competitive advantage. They sell access to the people they have data on. Regardless, it's irrelevant because the App Store labels aren't about selling the data, but about what is collected. (or supposed to be, as claimed by Apple)
- kingnothing 6y agoThey all pay to "share" data through data brokers in order to get more info about you. It's the same thing.
- saddlerustle 6y agoFacebook buys data from data brokers, but does not share data with data brokers.
- kingnothing 6y agoDo you work for them? The way data brokers work, from what I understand, is that it's a 2 way agreement. You only get the data if you give data.
- saddlerustle 6y agoThat's not how it works, they accept money.
- ogre_codes 6y agoThey don't sell data, they sell access to fine grained slices of their users. "You want to advertise to 65 year old white people[1] in QAnon so you can pedal a very specific kind of fear? No problem." "You want to buy access to black women under 30? We gotcha!" That is what Facebook does which Apple doesn't. [1] I know FB doesn't actually allow targeting based on race anymore. They do allow targeting based on interests though which can easily amount to the same thing.