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> No, capitalism is the problem. Blanket statements like this almost never help. They readily fall in danger of presenting a moralistic or normalizing argument
by kodah 6y ago
> No, capitalism is the problem.
Blanket statements like this almost never help. They readily fall in danger of presenting a moralistic or normalizing argument in debate, which require zero baseline. If you're going to debate people you need to provide an actual solution that doesn't just say, "stop what you're doing", "you're the problem", etc...
Conservation may have worked sometime in the 60's or earlier, however, economies would've stalled and our present would likely be quite different. It is possible to engineer our way out of climate change, but it will take the best minds being 100% committed to it and incentives that align to it.
- pmiller2 6y agoThe solution is ecosocialism.
- fastball 6y agoSocialism will never work before you get to a post-scarcity economy. Guess what the best way to get to a post-scarcity economy is? You guessed it, growth. Innovation. Progress. Not stalling it.
- pmiller2 6y agoWe already have enough wealth in the world to share. There's no need to continue oppressing the global south in order to fuel growth that's going to kill us. I may have agreed with you before capitalism pissed away our future. But, we just don't have the time left, and we must sacrifice in the short term to save the long term. These are facts. If we don't take drastic action now, climate change will abolish capitalism for us in a few decades. Is that what you want?