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Do you want a bit of perspective from someone who's been living under a very thick pall of coal-produced smog for many years? 100-500 µg/m³ of PM2.5 at day time

Do you want a bit of perspective from someone who's been living under a very thick pall of coal-produced smog for many years? 100-500 µg/m³ of PM2.5 at day time (depends on wind speed mostly, right now it's 550 µg), twice or thrice that at night. I don't think my body can tolerate this much longer. If we were to switch the coal power plants to nuclear energy, I'd jump up and down like a little girl. A small risk of second Chernobyl seems just fine in comparison to this. I'd be fine with a risk of nuclear explosion with no chance to escape, honestly.

oddmiral 6y ago
We cannot switch coal plants to nuclear. We can switch them to gas or hydro. > A small risk of second Chernobyl seems just fine in comparison to this. I'd be fine with a risk of nuclear explosion with no chance to escape, honestly. Chornobyl was near-miss. Potentially, it was able to turn whole Europe into radioactive wasteland, affecting lives of 1B of people. Can you just kill yourself only, please?
rob74 6y ago
Sorry for that, but may I ask where you live? Because if the pollution is coming from a coal power plant, there are filters for that. And I shudder to think what the people (mis)managing that coal power plant could do if it was nuclear instead...
eeZah7Ux 6y ago
> Do you want a bit of perspective Thanks but I don't need a strawman.
mixermachine 6y ago
How about switching to renewables + batteries? Solar is now as cheap as coal power in China. When you add some batteries you will be fine with no pollution. And no waste your childerns childern (and beyond) have to take care of.
- arcticbull 6y ago
  It's not actually true that batteries and solar are a perfect clean solution - and neither is wind. Better than coal to be sure, but it's not what you're making it out to be. Rare earth metals have to be mined in remote portions of China in dystopian hellscapes. Lithium and other minerals also have to be mined, and leave toxic tailing ponds. Solar panels frequently have cadmium and tellurium, which are also hazardous, and need to be managed. Plastics and composites in wind turbines also cannot be recycled. There are no perfect solutions, and the future will almost certainly require a mixture of kinds of energy.
arcticbull 6y ago
Not to mention coal actually disperses a ton of radioactive waste, as it contains both uranium and thorium [1]. [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-...

oddmiral 6y ago

We cannot switch coal plants to nuclear. We can switch them to gas or hydro. > A small risk of second Chernobyl seems just fine in comparison to this. I'd be fine with a risk of nuclear explosion with no chance to escape, honestly. Chornobyl was near-miss. Potentially, it was able to turn whole Europe into radioactive wasteland, affecting lives of 1B of people. Can you just kill yourself only, please?

rob74 6y ago

Sorry for that, but may I ask where you live? Because if the pollution is coming from a coal power plant, there are filters for that. And I shudder to think what the people (mis)managing that coal power plant could do if it was nuclear instead...

eeZah7Ux 6y ago

> Do you want a bit of perspective Thanks but I don't need a strawman.

mixermachine 6y ago

How about switching to renewables + batteries? Solar is now as cheap as coal power in China. When you add some batteries you will be fine with no pollution. And no waste your childerns childern (and beyond) have to take care of.

arcticbull 6y ago
It's not actually true that batteries and solar are a perfect clean solution - and neither is wind. Better than coal to be sure, but it's not what you're making it out to be. Rare earth metals have to be mined in remote portions of China in dystopian hellscapes. Lithium and other minerals also have to be mined, and leave toxic tailing ponds. Solar panels frequently have cadmium and tellurium, which are also hazardous, and need to be managed. Plastics and composites in wind turbines also cannot be recycled. There are no perfect solutions, and the future will almost certainly require a mixture of kinds of energy.

arcticbull 6y ago

Not to mention coal actually disperses a ton of radioactive waste, as it contains both uranium and thorium [1]. [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-...