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Do you vote? Because that's your answer.
by chillwaves 6y ago
Do you vote? Because that's your answer.
- Acrobatic_Road 6y agoNo politician ran a campaign on enforcing lockdowns. Nothing was put on the ballot, no votes were held. Where is the consent of the governed to all you who worship democracy?
- chillwaves 6y agoDirect democracy doesn't really exist so not sure what you are complaining about.
- Acrobatic_Road 6y agoWhat we have now is neither direct democracy nor representative democracy. Nobody voted for this.
- chillwaves 6y agoWhat we have is literally representative democracy. Did we not just have elections last November?
- Acrobatic_Road 6y agoWho voted for or against the lockdowns? If something this important was never held to a vote either directly or via representative, its not democratic.
- MperorM 6y agoI don't understand why this exact pattern of argument happens so much in online debate, but I really despise it. Acrobatic_Road makes a reasonable point that they don't feel they were given the proper means to express their policy preferences, and reasonably calls it 'undemocratic'. After all the reason we want democracy in the first place is so that ordinary citizens can influence the policy. Chillwaves reasonably points out that America is a representative democracy and so you vote for candidates whom you trust to vote in accordance to your policy preferences. That's two great points! We should be able to have an interesting discussion right? For example we could discuss ways in which the US system of representative democracy is failing Acrobatic_Road. We could also discuss why we might like it despite its failings. But for some reason, online debate seemingly always end up in an inane discussion debating definitions with one side claiming X is not truly Y while the other side claims X lives up to standard definition of Y. Nobody is any smarter. We entirely failed to learn anything from each others perspective. We can be better than this :(