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https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/police-break-rules-shooting-protesters-rubber-bullets-less-lethal-projectiles/3211421001/ https://www.u

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/police-break-rules-shooting-protesters-rubber-bullets-less-lethal-projectiles/3211421001/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/pol... Now you are aware. I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way.

jessedhillon 6y ago
> I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way Accepting your description of events for the moment -- is it your real, sincere belief, that this is the distinction that matters? I find it very hard to believe that, if these protests had been relocated around the corner to the Supreme Court -- or maybe to the DOJ building, or the Lincoln monument -- yet producing the exact same results, that you or anyone would just shrug their shoulders and write it off. But that's what I'm reading from your comment. And if that's right, it's fucking insane. Political violence is political violence, full stop. If your instinct in this moment is to rationalize how the violence going towards ends you support is different from that which goes towards other ends, put your phone away and seek help. You're part of the problem.
- chillwaves 6y ago
  The women got shot for breaching the the final barrier into the Capitol building, where a security detail was protecting the Vice President and members of Congress. It's impossible for me to believe you are unaware of the circumstances surrounding her death.
disgrunt 6y ago
> I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way. Rand Paul says hi. [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw
username90 6y ago
Getting shot with a lead bullet is different than a rubber bullet. Of course the crime is different etc, but you can't really compare lead bullets with rubber bullets. Rubber bullets can be lethal, yes, but lead bullets many orders of magnitude more lethal.

jessedhillon 6y ago

> I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way Accepting your description of events for the moment -- is it your real, sincere belief, that this is the distinction that matters? I find it very hard to believe that, if these protests had been relocated around the corner to the Supreme Court -- or maybe to the DOJ building, or the Lincoln monument -- yet producing the exact same results, that you or anyone would just shrug their shoulders and write it off. But that's what I'm reading from your comment. And if that's right, it's fucking insane. Political violence is political violence, full stop. If your instinct in this moment is to rationalize how the violence going towards ends you support is different from that which goes towards other ends, put your phone away and seek help. You're part of the problem.

chillwaves 6y ago
The women got shot for breaching the the final barrier into the Capitol building, where a security detail was protecting the Vice President and members of Congress. It's impossible for me to believe you are unaware of the circumstances surrounding her death.

disgrunt 6y ago

> I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way. Rand Paul says hi. [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw

username90 6y ago

Getting shot with a lead bullet is different than a rubber bullet. Of course the crime is different etc, but you can't really compare lead bullets with rubber bullets. Rubber bullets can be lethal, yes, but lead bullets many orders of magnitude more lethal.