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I'm not aware of any BLM protesters being shot by police during the summer protests, so right off the bat, this is a really weird comment you've written. Shooti

I'm not aware of any BLM protesters being shot by police during the summer protests, so right off the bat, this is a really weird comment you've written. Shooting a protester in the head is already worse treatment, isn't it?

ehsankia 6y ago
I'm also not aware of any BLM protester smashing through a barricade while there were a handful of armed guard on the other side repeatedly warning them to back off or they would be shot, but still jumping through despite the warnings [0]. During the protests, the police had no issue shoving people to the ground [1], but at the capitol it looked very different [2]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PAVTZIM5ks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PAVTZIM5ks [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bX7j3xUB3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bX7j3xUB3A [2] https://twitter.com/alafairburke/status/1346940066812276738 https://twitter.com/alafairburke/status/1346940066812276738
- stale2002 6y ago
  There were quite a few anarchist rioters who have broke into and destroyed various government buildings actually. I believe there was a situation in Seattle, for example, where they broke into and destroyed a police station.
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s5300 6y ago
Not aware? You must be blind.
chillwaves 6y ago
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/police-break-rules-shooting-protesters-rubber-bullets-less-lethal-projectiles/3211421001/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/pol... Now you are aware. I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way.
- jessedhillon 6y ago
  > I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way Accepting your description of events for the moment -- is it your real, sincere belief, that this is the distinction that matters? I find it very hard to believe that, if these protests had been relocated around the corner to the Supreme Court -- or maybe to the DOJ building, or the Lincoln monument -- yet producing the exact same results, that you or anyone would just shrug their shoulders and write it off. But that's what I'm reading from your comment. And if that's right, it's fucking insane. Political violence is political violence, full stop. If your instinct in this moment is to rationalize how the violence going towards ends you support is different from that which goes towards other ends, put your phone away and seek help. You're part of the problem.
  - chillwaves 6y ago
    The women got shot for breaching the the final barrier into the Capitol building, where a security detail was protecting the Vice President and members of Congress. It's impossible for me to believe you are unaware of the circumstances surrounding her death.
- disgrunt 6y ago
  > I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way. Rand Paul says hi. [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw
- username90 6y ago
  Getting shot with a lead bullet is different than a rubber bullet. Of course the crime is different etc, but you can't really compare lead bullets with rubber bullets. Rubber bullets can be lethal, yes, but lead bullets many orders of magnitude more lethal.

ehsankia 6y ago

I'm also not aware of any BLM protester smashing through a barricade while there were a handful of armed guard on the other side repeatedly warning them to back off or they would be shot, but still jumping through despite the warnings [0]. During the protests, the police had no issue shoving people to the ground [1], but at the capitol it looked very different [2]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PAVTZIM5ks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PAVTZIM5ks [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bX7j3xUB3A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bX7j3xUB3A [2] https://twitter.com/alafairburke/status/1346940066812276738 https://twitter.com/alafairburke/status/1346940066812276738

stale2002 6y ago
There were quite a few anarchist rioters who have broke into and destroyed various government buildings actually. I believe there was a situation in Seattle, for example, where they broke into and destroyed a police station.
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s5300 6y ago

Not aware? You must be blind.

chillwaves 6y ago

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/police-break-rules-shooting-protesters-rubber-bullets-less-lethal-projectiles/3211421001/ https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2020/06/19/pol... Now you are aware. I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way.

jessedhillon 6y ago
> I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way Accepting your description of events for the moment -- is it your real, sincere belief, that this is the distinction that matters? I find it very hard to believe that, if these protests had been relocated around the corner to the Supreme Court -- or maybe to the DOJ building, or the Lincoln monument -- yet producing the exact same results, that you or anyone would just shrug their shoulders and write it off. But that's what I'm reading from your comment. And if that's right, it's fucking insane. Political violence is political violence, full stop. If your instinct in this moment is to rationalize how the violence going towards ends you support is different from that which goes towards other ends, put your phone away and seek help. You're part of the problem.
- chillwaves 6y ago
  The women got shot for breaching the the final barrier into the Capitol building, where a security detail was protecting the Vice President and members of Congress. It's impossible for me to believe you are unaware of the circumstances surrounding her death.
disgrunt 6y ago
> I also don't recall BLM protesters threatening the leaders of our government in a real and material way. Rand Paul says hi. [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnL21qtGYcw
username90 6y ago
Getting shot with a lead bullet is different than a rubber bullet. Of course the crime is different etc, but you can't really compare lead bullets with rubber bullets. Rubber bullets can be lethal, yes, but lead bullets many orders of magnitude more lethal.