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I don't think there is any reason to exaggerate. People have a will and a right to protest against their perceived injustice at a state or federal level. A coup

by dstola 6y ago

I don't think there is any reason to exaggerate. People have a will and a right to protest against their perceived injustice at a state or federal level. A coup also usually involves the military and a taking of government by force, neither of which happened yesterday. If this were a coup then the BLM "protests" over the summer were also a coup, and they were causing significantly more damage to small business with destruction and looting. You are being disingenuous if you label this as a "coup" regurgitating biased media talking points.

apocalypstyx 6y ago
When did BLM protestors force their way into a capital building with the express goal of overturning the results of an election?
- djsumdog 6y ago
  Do you really think Trump protesters wanted to overthrow an election result by breaking into a building? Have you seen the videos of Capitol Police removing barriers and leading them into the buildings, or some of them taking selfies with the protestors? Either the Capitol Police are fucking terrible incompetent or they wanted this to happen. BLM rioters burned down a police station in Minneapolis/St Paul. They took over 6 square blocks in Seattle and their "community police" shot up a Jeep killing a 14 year old boy and removed all the evidence (https://battlepenguin.video/videos/watch/9f81cd38-3ee9-4f26-bd19-44fea7966c27 https://battlepenguin.video/videos/watch/9f81cd38-3ee9-4f26-...). These people walked into a public building and everyone is upset because they walked around the sacred halls of the rich and powerful; the house of the people. It was peasants in the castle and we can't have that. Was it wrong? absolutely. That's why the vast majority of people stayed outside. Oh and a woman was shot by that incompetent Capitol Security force. It's okay though because her life didn't matter since she's white. I'm pretty sure it was her fault because victim blaming is alright if the victim is a privileged air force veteran and isn't an oppressed minority.
- dstola 6y ago
  The Capitol was the focal point of the protest due to the location and in this case the perceived injustice of the election. When almost half the voting population thinks there is something wrong with the election, maybe its time to listen to those people. If anything I think the hivemind and unemployed young people showing frustration was the spark that ignited what happened yesterday. I am not trying to justify it as good or bad, but it was not a coup by a long shot and you cant haphazardly label it as such.
  - apocalypstyx 6y ago
    There are times when I try my upmost be very careful with my language. And this is one of them: What was undertaken on Jan. 6th was an attempted coup. It was insurrection. It was sedition. I refuse to allow that fact to be downplayed or obfuscated. https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/06/coup-heres-some-history-and-context-help-you-decid/ https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/06/coup-heres-so...
    - dstola 6y ago
      You are entitled to your opinion and your echo chamber of choice, but you are doing a disservice to your fellow citizens if you think in black and white
  - dwaltrip 6y ago
    The perceived injustice of the election only exists thanks to a massive, baseless propaganda campaign led by President Trump himself. The courts have "listened" to the "claims of injustice". They found nothing of merit. It's over. Trump lost, fair and square. His inability to handle the loss and his disregard for our democracy has wreaked havoc across the nation.
- hnburnsy 6y ago
  How would protestors overturn the results? Do they get a vote just because they are standing on the senate floor?
unethical_ban 6y ago
This is such a god-awful take. They rushed through barricades of the legislative building during a session. This session wasn't merely "some bill" for gun control, or abolishing taxes, or amending the Constitution, or what have you. It was the procedure of finally and officially certifying the results of an election that has been improperly questioned by the incumbent. This election has been concluded to be free of systemic fraud, or any level of fraud sufficient to flip any state. And yet these seditious citizens broke in with the intent to stop such a vote from occurring, to the extent that representatives had to flee to safety and several people died. I personally did not support the level of property damage from the summer protests, but the differences are large. Protesting for political change through collective action, and being attacked in many instances by the very force they claim is oppressive. The protesters in DC were attacking the will of the people, based on lies and the encouragement of the sitting President - and pretty much welcomed in by local law enforcement.

by dstola 6y ago

apocalypstyx 6y ago

When did BLM protestors force their way into a capital building with the express goal of overturning the results of an election?

djsumdog 6y ago
Do you really think Trump protesters wanted to overthrow an election result by breaking into a building? Have you seen the videos of Capitol Police removing barriers and leading them into the buildings, or some of them taking selfies with the protestors? Either the Capitol Police are fucking terrible incompetent or they wanted this to happen. BLM rioters burned down a police station in Minneapolis/St Paul. They took over 6 square blocks in Seattle and their "community police" shot up a Jeep killing a 14 year old boy and removed all the evidence (https://battlepenguin.video/videos/watch/9f81cd38-3ee9-4f26-bd19-44fea7966c27 https://battlepenguin.video/videos/watch/9f81cd38-3ee9-4f26-...). These people walked into a public building and everyone is upset because they walked around the sacred halls of the rich and powerful; the house of the people. It was peasants in the castle and we can't have that. Was it wrong? absolutely. That's why the vast majority of people stayed outside. Oh and a woman was shot by that incompetent Capitol Security force. It's okay though because her life didn't matter since she's white. I'm pretty sure it was her fault because victim blaming is alright if the victim is a privileged air force veteran and isn't an oppressed minority.
dstola 6y ago
The Capitol was the focal point of the protest due to the location and in this case the perceived injustice of the election. When almost half the voting population thinks there is something wrong with the election, maybe its time to listen to those people. If anything I think the hivemind and unemployed young people showing frustration was the spark that ignited what happened yesterday. I am not trying to justify it as good or bad, but it was not a coup by a long shot and you cant haphazardly label it as such.
- apocalypstyx 6y ago
  There are times when I try my upmost be very careful with my language. And this is one of them: What was undertaken on Jan. 6th was an attempted coup. It was insurrection. It was sedition. I refuse to allow that fact to be downplayed or obfuscated. https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/06/coup-heres-some-history-and-context-help-you-decid/ https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/06/coup-heres-so...
  - dstola 6y ago
    You are entitled to your opinion and your echo chamber of choice, but you are doing a disservice to your fellow citizens if you think in black and white
- dwaltrip 6y ago
  The perceived injustice of the election only exists thanks to a massive, baseless propaganda campaign led by President Trump himself. The courts have "listened" to the "claims of injustice". They found nothing of merit. It's over. Trump lost, fair and square. His inability to handle the loss and his disregard for our democracy has wreaked havoc across the nation.
hnburnsy 6y ago
How would protestors overturn the results? Do they get a vote just because they are standing on the senate floor?

unethical_ban 6y ago

This is such a god-awful take. They rushed through barricades of the legislative building during a session. This session wasn't merely "some bill" for gun control, or abolishing taxes, or amending the Constitution, or what have you. It was the procedure of finally and officially certifying the results of an election that has been improperly questioned by the incumbent. This election has been concluded to be free of systemic fraud, or any level of fraud sufficient to flip any state. And yet these seditious citizens broke in with the intent to stop such a vote from occurring, to the extent that representatives had to flee to safety and several people died. I personally did not support the level of property damage from the summer protests, but the differences are large. Protesting for political change through collective action, and being attacked in many instances by the very force they claim is oppressive. The protesters in DC were attacking the will of the people, based on lies and the encouragement of the sitting President - and pretty much welcomed in by local law enforcement.