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Trump did not incite violence. If anything, the media this summer was much more involved in inciting and fueling the BLM riots.

Thaxll 6y ago
Yes he did, just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBH7ql34Ex0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBH7ql34Ex0 it's just lies and pushing people to do terrible things. Trump is currently the most dangerous American alive, he's the most powerful person on the planet spreading lies over lies to his millions of followers.
- goostavos 6y ago
  Was it the "I know everyone is getting ready to march over to the capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard" part...? Or was it the tweets? "Go home with love & in peace."(now deleted) https://www.thetrumparchive.com/ https://www.thetrumparchive.com/ Maybe this one? "am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence!" Or this video telling everyone to they they lost, and to pick up their toys and head home peacefully. https://mobile.twitter.com/tom2badcat/status/1347015353390522368 https://mobile.twitter.com/tom2badcat/status/134701535339052... Am I in a media bubble? Where's the smoking gun of him inciting violence and trying to prevent a peaceful transition of power? As far as I can tell, the only real source calling for violence has been the users on thedonald.win, which has caused the mods to step in and say that they will follow the Presidents call for peace and thus not allow the platform to contain calls for violence (https://thedonald.win/p/11RhAqC6sa/mods-are-compromised/ https://thedonald.win/p/11RhAqC6sa/mods-are-compromised/)
  - ttesttom 6y ago
    Maybe check what the Republicans are saying, for example Bill Barr said: >“Orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable. The president’s conduct yesterday was a betrayal of his office and supporters.” https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986 https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986?...
    - anonunivgrad 6y ago
      That’s a logical fallacy if I’ve ever seen one. Bill Barr has his reasons, I’m sure, for saying what he said. That doesn’t mean he’s right.
      - ttesttom 6y ago
        How is it a logical fallacy to check the opinions of both political parties? The parent asked: > "Am I in a media bubble?" Usually helps to check what both sides of the partisan isle are saying to avoid a bubble.
  - lovecg 6y ago
    Or maybe the one where he said that he “loves” the violent mob without a single word of condemnation? How is this even a conversation at this point?
jedberg 6y ago
He literally stood outside near the Capitol and said, “If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore” and then encouraged the crowd to go to the Capitol.
- jacobriis 6y ago
  What he literally said while he "literally stood outside near the Capitol" (he was almost two miles away from the Capitol): "Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong." ... "So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here, this is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you."
- dukeofdoom 6y ago
  Trump is a leader of a populist movement. The call was to march and protest outside. He gave no direction for them to go inside. And soon after they went in, he made a video statements on Twitter for them to go home. I also thought its the "Peoples House" after all. Not really sure what laws were broken other than maybe trespassing. BTW, democrats have occupied legislators too during protests.
  - lovecg 6y ago
    If I make a dog angry, then take its muzzle off and make it go near you, am I liable when you get bitten? I didn’t give it direction to bite you after all.
ttesttom 6y ago
Even Bill Barr, Trumps former AG, said Trump incited a mob. >“Orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable. The president’s conduct yesterday was a betrayal of his office and supporters.” https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986?s=20 https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986?...

Thaxll 6y ago

Yes he did, just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBH7ql34Ex0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBH7ql34Ex0 it's just lies and pushing people to do terrible things. Trump is currently the most dangerous American alive, he's the most powerful person on the planet spreading lies over lies to his millions of followers.

goostavos 6y ago
Was it the "I know everyone is getting ready to march over to the capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard" part...? Or was it the tweets? "Go home with love & in peace."(now deleted) https://www.thetrumparchive.com/ https://www.thetrumparchive.com/ Maybe this one? "am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence!" Or this video telling everyone to they they lost, and to pick up their toys and head home peacefully. https://mobile.twitter.com/tom2badcat/status/1347015353390522368 https://mobile.twitter.com/tom2badcat/status/134701535339052... Am I in a media bubble? Where's the smoking gun of him inciting violence and trying to prevent a peaceful transition of power? As far as I can tell, the only real source calling for violence has been the users on thedonald.win, which has caused the mods to step in and say that they will follow the Presidents call for peace and thus not allow the platform to contain calls for violence (https://thedonald.win/p/11RhAqC6sa/mods-are-compromised/ https://thedonald.win/p/11RhAqC6sa/mods-are-compromised/)
- ttesttom 6y ago
  Maybe check what the Republicans are saying, for example Bill Barr said: >“Orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable. The president’s conduct yesterday was a betrayal of his office and supporters.” https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986 https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986?...
  - anonunivgrad 6y ago
    That’s a logical fallacy if I’ve ever seen one. Bill Barr has his reasons, I’m sure, for saying what he said. That doesn’t mean he’s right.
    - ttesttom 6y ago
      How is it a logical fallacy to check the opinions of both political parties? The parent asked: > "Am I in a media bubble?" Usually helps to check what both sides of the partisan isle are saying to avoid a bubble.
- lovecg 6y ago
  Or maybe the one where he said that he “loves” the violent mob without a single word of condemnation? How is this even a conversation at this point?

jedberg 6y ago

He literally stood outside near the Capitol and said, “If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore” and then encouraged the crowd to go to the Capitol.

jacobriis 6y ago
What he literally said while he "literally stood outside near the Capitol" (he was almost two miles away from the Capitol): "Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong." ... "So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here, this is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you."
dukeofdoom 6y ago
Trump is a leader of a populist movement. The call was to march and protest outside. He gave no direction for them to go inside. And soon after they went in, he made a video statements on Twitter for them to go home. I also thought its the "Peoples House" after all. Not really sure what laws were broken other than maybe trespassing. BTW, democrats have occupied legislators too during protests.
- lovecg 6y ago
  If I make a dog angry, then take its muzzle off and make it go near you, am I liable when you get bitten? I didn’t give it direction to bite you after all.

ttesttom 6y ago

Even Bill Barr, Trumps former AG, said Trump incited a mob. >“Orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable. The president’s conduct yesterday was a betrayal of his office and supporters.” https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986?s=20 https://twitter.com/GingerGibson/status/1347213610406313986?...