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(Author here) The Peloton also has power zone training similar to what you mentioned. With the instructors nattering on in the background, occasionally rotatin

(Author here) The Peloton also has power zone training similar to what you mentioned. With the instructors nattering on in the background, occasionally rotating the dial isn't so bad. I believe the newer version of the bike does have automatic resistance control, though.

Wheaties466 6y ago
yes the bike+ is advertised as being able to do that. But I haven't figured out how to take advantage of that.
- Graphguy 6y ago
  just click the lock button on the workout resistance (can't be live workout)
- entee 6y ago
  It’s also apparently a closed protocol, so Zwift and third party apps can’t use it. Maybe peloton will open that up at some point, it would bring it a new market. I have a bike on a wahoo kickr core and it’s great, and I don’t have space for a dedicated bike. If I did, I’d totally go for one of the newer all-in-one bikes (easier, less hassle) and peloton is interesting if it can do the same things as that hardware.
matsemann 6y ago
Does the Peloton have ERG modus? Not only don't I have to mess with gearing/resistance as software can adjust my trainer, but my trainer will also make me keep my power target regardless of cadence. If I spin faster, it will make the resistance lighter such that my wattage stays the same.
- _ihaque 6y ago
  (Author here) There's no built-in mode for constant power. (Nor could there be, on the original Bike that I have, as the resistance control is manual.) The new one might have it. At a hardware level I'm not sure how well it would work. Out of the box, the tablet only queries the bike for cadence/power/resistance every 100ms, one query at a time in round robin, so your power reading is only coming every 300ms. However, the bike responds to queries much faster - on the order of 200-300us (https://ihaque.org/posts/2020/12/26/pelomon-part-ii-emulating-peloton/ https://ihaque.org/posts/2020/12/26/pelomon-part-ii-emulatin...), so an external device could certainly ask for updates faster. I'm not sure how rapidly the micro on the bike itself actually updates its own measurements and what ultimate time resolution is possible.
  - ubermonkey 6y ago
    "Erg mode" is pretty core to expectations for smart trainers now. It can also lead to a sort of "workout failure death spiral" -- you start to fail at your interval, and your pedal stroke slows down, so the resistance increases to meet your power target, and you slow down some more... This can end up chasing you up the cassette if you don't get back on top of it, or you don't adjust the workout bias (ie, reduce the overall power targets to something you can hit). but you really want this, at least for structured training. It may NOT be important if your goal is "spin at home." (Someone downtopic seems to think drawing a distinction between "people who mostly ride outside fast in pacelines" and "people who mostly just like spin classes" is somehow snobbery, but I don't see it that way at all.)
- rconti 6y ago
  No, and the power output is an estimate from calibration. It doesn't actually measure your realtime power.

Wheaties466 6y ago

yes the bike+ is advertised as being able to do that. But I haven't figured out how to take advantage of that.

Graphguy 6y ago
just click the lock button on the workout resistance (can't be live workout)
entee 6y ago
It’s also apparently a closed protocol, so Zwift and third party apps can’t use it. Maybe peloton will open that up at some point, it would bring it a new market. I have a bike on a wahoo kickr core and it’s great, and I don’t have space for a dedicated bike. If I did, I’d totally go for one of the newer all-in-one bikes (easier, less hassle) and peloton is interesting if it can do the same things as that hardware.

matsemann 6y ago

Does the Peloton have ERG modus? Not only don't I have to mess with gearing/resistance as software can adjust my trainer, but my trainer will also make me keep my power target regardless of cadence. If I spin faster, it will make the resistance lighter such that my wattage stays the same.

_ihaque 6y ago
(Author here) There's no built-in mode for constant power. (Nor could there be, on the original Bike that I have, as the resistance control is manual.) The new one might have it. At a hardware level I'm not sure how well it would work. Out of the box, the tablet only queries the bike for cadence/power/resistance every 100ms, one query at a time in round robin, so your power reading is only coming every 300ms. However, the bike responds to queries much faster - on the order of 200-300us (https://ihaque.org/posts/2020/12/26/pelomon-part-ii-emulating-peloton/ https://ihaque.org/posts/2020/12/26/pelomon-part-ii-emulatin...), so an external device could certainly ask for updates faster. I'm not sure how rapidly the micro on the bike itself actually updates its own measurements and what ultimate time resolution is possible.
- ubermonkey 6y ago
  "Erg mode" is pretty core to expectations for smart trainers now. It can also lead to a sort of "workout failure death spiral" -- you start to fail at your interval, and your pedal stroke slows down, so the resistance increases to meet your power target, and you slow down some more... This can end up chasing you up the cassette if you don't get back on top of it, or you don't adjust the workout bias (ie, reduce the overall power targets to something you can hit). but you really want this, at least for structured training. It may NOT be important if your goal is "spin at home." (Someone downtopic seems to think drawing a distinction between "people who mostly ride outside fast in pacelines" and "people who mostly just like spin classes" is somehow snobbery, but I don't see it that way at all.)
rconti 6y ago
No, and the power output is an estimate from calibration. It doesn't actually measure your realtime power.