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In many cases making a neural network explainable is literally impossible. Logic based AI failed in the 90s and only though neural nets have we gotten to human

In many cases making a neural network explainable is literally impossible. Logic based AI failed in the 90s and only though neural nets have we gotten to human and superhuman level advances. If you want explainability it's going to require giving up a lot of innovation that could help people. Especially when we ourselves can't explain our own behavior psychologically.

ocdtrekkie 6y ago
> In many cases making a neural network explainable is literally impossible. Then it should be illegal to use on consumer websites. It's that simple. > If you want explainability it's going to require giving up a lot of innovation that could help people. Four people died in the US Capitol because of this "innovation". It's time to stop pretending technology doesn't cause more harm than good in these cases.
- cercatrova 6y ago
  I don't like when people try to stop or slow down technological innovation. Technologies are just tools, a nuclear bomb could just as easily have been made into a nuclear power plant. But to fully restrict them shows a lack of foresight. Yes, recommender systems can be used for bad, as yesterday, but they can also be good.
  - ocdtrekkie 6y ago
    It's likely unrestricted technological innovation will inevitably cause the end of the human species, and your own example demonstrates why: In our rush to create the nuclear bomb, several times we came close to obliterating all life on earth due to simple mistakes. Several times, the hesitation of one man was the only thing that prevented our planet's complete annihilation. The nuclear bomb is exactly why we need to block "innovation" that causes more harm than good.
    - cercatrova 6y ago
      And yet nuclear energy is one of the highest latent energy sources we have, orders of magnitude above solar, wind, coal and so on. If we blocked progress, then we'd have never discovered this. The question is, how do you know something is bad before developing it? You oftentimes can't put the genie back in the bottle.

ocdtrekkie 6y ago

> In many cases making a neural network explainable is literally impossible. Then it should be illegal to use on consumer websites. It's that simple. > If you want explainability it's going to require giving up a lot of innovation that could help people. Four people died in the US Capitol because of this "innovation". It's time to stop pretending technology doesn't cause more harm than good in these cases.

cercatrova 6y ago
I don't like when people try to stop or slow down technological innovation. Technologies are just tools, a nuclear bomb could just as easily have been made into a nuclear power plant. But to fully restrict them shows a lack of foresight. Yes, recommender systems can be used for bad, as yesterday, but they can also be good.
- ocdtrekkie 6y ago
  It's likely unrestricted technological innovation will inevitably cause the end of the human species, and your own example demonstrates why: In our rush to create the nuclear bomb, several times we came close to obliterating all life on earth due to simple mistakes. Several times, the hesitation of one man was the only thing that prevented our planet's complete annihilation. The nuclear bomb is exactly why we need to block "innovation" that causes more harm than good.
  - cercatrova 6y ago
    And yet nuclear energy is one of the highest latent energy sources we have, orders of magnitude above solar, wind, coal and so on. If we blocked progress, then we'd have never discovered this. The question is, how do you know something is bad before developing it? You oftentimes can't put the genie back in the bottle.