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I think the characterization is what's surprising. I would imagine there's a major supplier for petri dishes out there that everyone in the medical field knows

by pfranz 6y ago

I think the characterization is what's surprising. I would imagine there's a major supplier for petri dishes out there that everyone in the medical field knows of, but I've never heard of them and wouldn't call them "obscure" just because it's niche. Using that criteria every software company outside of Microsoft or Apple would be considered obscure.

phillipcarter 6y ago
The characterization really, truly, does not matter.
- dumpsterdiver 6y ago
  > It's amazing to me how many programmers get shook to the core when something that seems so obviously important to them is actually not a big deal to the rest of the world. > The characterization really, truly, does not matter. I don't think that's a fair sentiment. Within the niche that Jetbrains occupies it is one of the most well known players out there, and so it truly is not obscure. It was an unfair characterization. Furthermore, the reporting provides no evidence to support its very damaging claim. To those of us who are familiar with configuring these types of systems, we know very well how easy it is to leave a single permission unattended to. The damage done by this type of irresponsible reporting is serious. Personally, I hope they get their pants sued off for their complete lack of discretion and disregard for journalistic integrity.
  - phillipcarter 6y ago
    > Within the niche that Jetbrains occupies it is one of the most well known players out there, and so it truly is not obscure. Doesn't matter. I'll repeat that it's still amazing how many programmers get shook to the core when something that seems so obviously important to them is actually not a big deal to the rest of the world. > Furthermore [...] Unrelated to my post :). But I hope investigations show that TeamCity was indeed misconfigured and that nothing nefarious is at play w.r.t. their tools.
    - dumpsterdiver 6y ago
      > Unrelated to my post :) Yeah, you're right. My diatribe near the end was something I had to get off my chest, but looking back there was nothing in your comment that it was responding to. I should be more mindful where I tote my baggage around, lol.

by pfranz 6y ago

phillipcarter 6y ago

The characterization really, truly, does not matter.

dumpsterdiver 6y ago
> It's amazing to me how many programmers get shook to the core when something that seems so obviously important to them is actually not a big deal to the rest of the world. > The characterization really, truly, does not matter. I don't think that's a fair sentiment. Within the niche that Jetbrains occupies it is one of the most well known players out there, and so it truly is not obscure. It was an unfair characterization. Furthermore, the reporting provides no evidence to support its very damaging claim. To those of us who are familiar with configuring these types of systems, we know very well how easy it is to leave a single permission unattended to. The damage done by this type of irresponsible reporting is serious. Personally, I hope they get their pants sued off for their complete lack of discretion and disregard for journalistic integrity.
- phillipcarter 6y ago
  > Within the niche that Jetbrains occupies it is one of the most well known players out there, and so it truly is not obscure. Doesn't matter. I'll repeat that it's still amazing how many programmers get shook to the core when something that seems so obviously important to them is actually not a big deal to the rest of the world. > Furthermore [...] Unrelated to my post :). But I hope investigations show that TeamCity was indeed misconfigured and that nothing nefarious is at play w.r.t. their tools.
  - dumpsterdiver 6y ago
    > Unrelated to my post :) Yeah, you're right. My diatribe near the end was something I had to get off my chest, but looking back there was nothing in your comment that it was responding to. I should be more mindful where I tote my baggage around, lol.